Talk:Gerald Bonner

Notability

Notability has not been established, two reviews are not significant enough and the majority of the article is unsourced, with conflict of interest edits. Theroadislong (talk) 21:12, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

As the editor identified as having a personal interest, if there is to be a Wikipedia entry related to my father (and I was not the person who created it in the first place) I desire that it be comprehensive. As and when an editor without personal connection appears who is willing to put in the time to make a thorough job of it, I will be happy to surrender that responsibility to him or her. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 12:46, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Willing editor

As you will note, I have taken an interest in this article, and have made a number of edits. I have been editing since 2016, and am willing to serve as a neutral editor for this topic.Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 01:18, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Times letter quotation

JBonnerAnglican Because I have read the David Jenkins article, I have some notion of what this letter/quote is referring to. But a normal reader of the GB article would be absolutely clueless. I would like to add some sort of explanation for the reader. I need assistance from you, for a correct interpretation.

JBA, if you would kindly post the info here on this talk page, then I can review it, and add it, as a neutral editor.

1) What fundamental belief is referred to in this letter?

2) How does this relate to the orthodoxy of C of E doctrine, etc?

3) Can you offer an explanation (short?) of why/how D. Jenkins apptmt was Not Able to be influenced by the "laymen" of the Anglican Commununion?

If you can explain this to me, I can look for sources to support that are, most likey, already available here on WP. Just need a few short sentences, a summary, as I can wikilink to other articles, etc.

After I come up with some explanatory text, I can post it here, on the TP, and we can sort through it. Thanks so much. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 06:03, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Dear Tribe of Tiger

To put it in a nutshell (!) Professor Jenkins, whom my father had known as an academic acquaintance (external examiners at each other's universities) and to whom he had initially written with congratulations! (obviously there's no published documentation on this; it's for your personal enlightenment) in the course of a television interview expressed his doubts as to the authenticity of the Virgin Birth and Christ's bodily Resurrection. Certain Anglican clergy and theologians (notably Denis Nineham) had been making observations of a similar nature for years, but there was a tacit understanding that this wasn't the role of a bishop, particularly in his public pronouncements. Since the Bishop of Durham is a senior appointment in the Church of England - often occupied by a distinguished scholar (like Tom Wright in more recent years) - the fact that Jenkins spoke in this way caused great disquiet, particularly within his own diocese. There was even a deputation from Durham to the Archbishop of York (in which my father participated) to ask him not to consecrate Jenkins (haven't been able to find an online reference that far back).

My father's observation as to the inability of laypeople to participate in the election reflects the fact that - unlike, say, the American Episcopal Church - bishops were then appointed on the recommendation of the Prime Minister to the Crown; there was no lay involvement - hence his reference to "the Establishment" making its choice without reference to the people of God.

There was a book published in 1985 called The Durham Affair, giving a conservative perspective, see the review in Modern Churchman (https://online.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/abs/10.3828/MC.28.3.50), but there was a lot of discussion in the press (including the secular press).

Hope this is all clear, but thanks for being involved and I'll post everything I find here in future and let you put it together. Could I suggest that - where we can find suitable alternative sources - you minimize use of the family obituary since that obviously is a personal source, even though the person who first put the entry together used the obituary extensively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBonnerAnglican (talk • contribs) 08:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

You might want to add a section on Civil Liberties at some point. My father was involved in a long-running battle with the BBC regarding his refusal to state that he did not own a television (which he didn't) on the grounds that it was not their right to ask and we ended up getting a visit from the police who entered using an invalid warrant. I'll try and find the references.

JBonnerAnglican (talk) 09:40, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

With regard to

11:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBonnerAnglican (talk • contribs)

One more observation in light of the summary in the Jenkins article of the original controversy. There was obviously some debate at the time over what Jenkins had said and the meaning to be attributed to it. The problem - as my father saw it - was that he was still talking as an academic theologian when he had become bishop-designate. Relatively few people pay much attention to what theologians say; but they do (or did then) to what bishops say. For many ordinary Christians, the formulae that Jenkins employed may have conveyed more than he intended, but then it's incumbent upon a bishop to think before he (or she) speaks. Since the Church of England has no official Confession of Faith, it makes it hard to determine what is and is not authoriative doctrine.

I should add that my father - while not necessarily approving of overtly political bishops - would have had no problem with Jenkins's anti-market views. His conservatism was theological rather than political (except on cultural issues such as abortion). It was also evidence of Jenkins's fundamental good nature that when my father was offered the CUA position he was unsure whether he should take it having just been elected to General Synod (something he never really desired) and Jenkins was one of those who told him he ought to accept the academic honour.

JBonnerAnglican (talk) 11:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Acknowledgment of reponse

JBonnerAnglican I want to post a reply here, to confirm that I have read, and will continue to work through the info above. Thanks so much for this explanation. I find this to be complicated, esp. for a "non- "C of E" person. So, give me some time....For those "in the know" during this period of time, your father's "letter to The Times" makes sense. I learned from my English friends that posting a "letter to The Times", was an important part of English culture and protest. (Hope I have that right, etc).I will consider carefully...Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 02:23, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

First Class Honours

"First Class Honours...equivalent to summa cum laude". Frankly, at this point, with all the other good sources, which confirm his education and scholarship, I do not believe that any reasonable person is going to challenge this stmt., so don't worry about it.

Jenkins' anti-market views

Is this another term for "the Establishment", as noted in the GB letter quote? More for my understanding, in regards to the quote.

Sorry, I'm probably throwing more information at you than you need. Jenkins became known as Bishop of Durham for his stands against Mrs Thatcher and her Conservative government over the Miners' Strike (which hit Durham hard), privatization and other market-led reforms. It was often assumed that people who criticized Jenkins over his theological stands were equally critical of his politics. Some of them probably were but my father - who was the English equivalent of a Reagan Democrat - was not one of them. When he wrote about about "the Establishment" he meant simply the backroom process by which bishops were appointed. Ironically, Jenkins's appointment was made by Margaret Thatcher herself, though had she known the political positions that he would adopt she might well have declined to recommend him. In 1990, she chose George Carey as Archbishop of Canterbury because he was seen as a more conservative prelate, having endured considerable criticism from his predecessor Robert Runcie.

Probably more information than you need to know, but it gives you an anecdote or two for dinner parties.

JBonnerAnglican (talk) 06:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

British Museum section

You could add as a reference the Daniel Hardy appreciation in footnote 4 (the Museum years also appear on p.6). The below facts are noted by Hardy (who was my father's colleague at Durham).

He was with the Department of Manuscripts from 1953 until 1964, serving under Bertram Schofield and Theodore Cressy Skeat. Those years proved somewhat frustrating because of the backlog of manuscripts that had accumulated during the Second World War, which obliged the staff to spend most of their time cataloguing sometimes rather mundane collections. The Crum Papers proved of particular interest to my father because of Crum's work compiling an authoritative Coptic dictionary.

JBonnerAnglican (talk) 14:22, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this looks good. Please confirm that this is the correct ref . Also, is the above a word for word quote? I will assume that it is, and edit accordingly, rewording a bit, etc. Your opinion of my edit will be appreciated, since you have the print copy to refer to. Thanks, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 00:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

JBonnerAnglicanI have done my best to interpose this info with the other British Museum info. If you will, please ck for spelling errors, etc. and any other problems with the prose. Thanks, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 01:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

The reference is correct but the text I quoted is my paraphrase of Hardy's essential points. Schofield and Skeat were the departmental officers to whom he reported. One of the reasons my father ultimately left the Museum was because he felt a lot of what he had to catalogue had been accepted for political reasons not for its historical value. His interest in Crum stemmed from the fact that Coptic was the language of Christian Egypt (as it still is) and was the lingua franca of the Church in Alexandria. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 09:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Add note to self: "His interest in Crum stemmed from the fact that Coptic was the language of Christian Egypt (as it still is) and was the lingua franca of the Church in Alexandria." Research? Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:11, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Original research

This addition is original research "Bonner's mention of "the Establishment" is a reference to the fact that bishops were then appointed on the recommendation of the Prime Minister to the Crown; there was no lay involvement. Thus, the laity of the Church of England, who were also its financial supporters, had no choice in choosing the "authority" which was placed over them. Bonner felt that the church members had a right to expect their bishop to represent their basic and "fundamental Christian beliefs". Please remove. We don't add content based on TP comments by conflicted users. Theroadislong (talk) 07:25, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

I did add a ref to an article regarding the appointment of C of E bishops. However, I will remove my edit. Thanks for being polite....Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 08:08, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Theroadislong Okay, you got to it first. I tripped over the cat and busted my ass ( actually, knees, hand and face), so I was delayed in finding your note. Whew. Best, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 08:16, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

It's complicated isn't it? You want to provide context, but you can't do it for this without relying on unpublished sources. That was why when I posted the quote I didn't add commentary (even though potentially confusing to the reader). Again my thanks Tribe of Tiger. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 10:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

It's not at all complicated JBonnerAnglican, we just report what reliable, independent sources say. Theroadislong (talk) 10:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

The comment was actually to my ever-generous editor, who was trying to enlighten the less-informed reader as to the context of the source (the letter quoted). The reliability and independence of sources in my professional experience is very much in the eye of the beholder. As I hope you have noted, I am now endeavouring to provide all the information at second-hand and allow someone with no axe to grind to shape it (and I'm very grateful to her). JBonnerAnglican (talk) 10:27, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Durham University section

Hardy deals with the Durham years on pp.6-8: .

My paraphrase of his esential points:

Invited to apply for a lecturership at Durham by Hugh Turner (theologian) , whom he met at the Oxford Patristic Conference of 1963.

Durham University's Department of Theology was then heavily oriented to biblical studies, and my father's appointment represented an attempt to expand expertise in early Church history. By the early 1970s, both Church history and theology had become accepted tracks for Durham theology students, My father created an option for Augustine in the Honours School of Theology that was continued by his successor Carol Harrison (theologian).

(**possible note to add? ToT**) No establised departmental building until 1973 when Abbey House near the Cathedral was designated for that purpose and my father's office was initially based in a former shop on the Bailey. The reference to my father's office is Hardy p.7 JBonnerAnglican (talk) 13:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

His work on St. Bede (buried in the Galilee Chapel of the Cathedral) reflected the fact that in 1964 early Northumbrian history was taught only by the archaeologist Rosemary Cramp and the literary products of Northumbrian culture received little scrutiny. Building on the work of the Durham antiquarian Bertram Colgrave, Bonner undertook to promote greater understanding beginning with his 1966 Jarrow Lecture, entitled St. Bede in the Tradition of Western Apocalyptic Commentary. He also organised the Bedan Conference of 1973, authored the catalogue for the 1974 Sunderland Exhibition on Bede, edited a book of essays for the thirteenth centenary of Bede in 1976. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 10:40, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

JBonnerAnglican Thanks for the above. I had outside activities today, a bit tired, so may have wait a day to work on the edits. Especially appreciate the good source & the connections to other articles. I will go ahead and "wikilink" them now, for ease of reading. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 00:21, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you TT, It's very good of you to do this at all and the fact that I'm posting all this material doesn't mean that I expect you to do it all at once. I just want to make sure you have it for whenever you feel the inclination (and whenever life in the real world allows it). How long have you been an editor?

Two more references (published collections of the papers delivered at those conferences):

For the Bede Conference of 1973: ref .

For the Cuthbert Conference of 1987: ref .

Re: Durham University section

This has, without a doubt, been the trickiest section editing I have ever done! Interspersing the various facts, and keeping the refs/sources attached was a challenge. Please, JBA, read through carefully, and back-check my work.

Question to JBA: Do you have a book/paper source that we can add for the Jarrow Lecture? We have a supporting source for the info, not a problem here, but could we add this to the "Works" section, in some manner?

Your reward is in heaven (although when transatlantic travel once again becomes a possibility and if you should feel like re-visiting this part of the world, be assured we will offer you bed and board). I will cast my eye over your labours now. I know I keep saying this, but we are all very grateful. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 07:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

• • JBonnerAnglican, Thank you so much for these kind words. My traveling days are over, but your offer of hospitality has caused me to grab a tissue, to deal with my watery eyes. Please check your talk page, a bit later, for further comments.Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!}

Suggestions from J. Bonner

Biographical box at top right: add a Denomination: Anglican

• • Having problems here, will ask for help, I am not experienced in working with info boxesTribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done:.. Bonner as “theologian”: This term is used in both the introductory sentence and in Early Life. My father considered himself a church historian first and foremost, rather than strictly a theologian (a term generally applied to those who teach systematic theology – the philosophical aspect, if you will). “Church historian” or “Early Church historian” would be closer to the mark.

• • I have made changes, in both the lede, and early life. Not sure about my capitaliztions, let me know?? This is why it is so valuable to have "an expert in the field" review an article. Let me know if I miss something. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

British Museum: Because Hardy doesn’t specifically mention the ‘mundane’ nature of the collections (it’s just a detail I know personally) I suspect your colleagues would want the last sentence before the footnote to be removed.

• • Thanks for your honesty, will review.Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done Durham University Citation for Bede Lecture (APA style): Bonner, Gerald. (1966). Saint Bede in the tradition of Western apocalyptic commentary. Jarrow lecture.

• • Okay! Did my best? to cite properly, but at least it is listed under works.Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:55, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Theological Views: I hate to do this after you went to so much trouble, but the only source for the cordial relationship is me (and I’m not authoritative by Wikipedia standards am I). Therefore the third full sentence should probably be struck.

• • Thanks again, for your honesty, will reviewTribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:55, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done Personal Life: For my mother you can add (citing Hardy p.8) that she married my father in 1967. She was a philologist educated at Bedford College, London and taught Early and Middle High German at the University of Sheffield. During their marriage she assisted my father in his understanding of the peculiarities of theological German anfod was instrumental in organising the Bedan Conference. (for the latter you can cite John Godfrey and Jane Bonner, ‘The Bedan Conference.’ Ampleforth Journal (Summer 1974) 79:2, pp.4-18.

• • We have a good source, so will add this. She obviously made a noted contribution to his work, so this is a good "scholarly edition".Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:55, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Question

 Done I have copied from above: (**possible note to add? ToT**) No establised departmental building until 1973 when Abbey House near the Cathedral was designated for that purpose and my father's office was initially based in a former shop on the Bailey. The reference to my father's office is Hardy p.7

• • A bit lost here, sorry. ( I understand how to cite the ref/source, etc)..What was the building in 1973, etc. intended to house? The Department of Theology? Was this "what Abbey House near the Cathedral" was designated for? Merely wish to confirm. Sorry, as I do not have access to the print ref, I need some confirming help here. Thanks, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 06:35, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Until the late 1960s, the "department" was essentially the two canon professors who were cathedral clergy with houses near the Cathedral. Lectures were delivered in one of the university lecture theatres and tutorials with students were held in the professors' own living rooms. There were no departmental offices and no administrators (also a lot less university paperwork). As more faculty (like my father) were hired, many of whom were laypeople, this state of affairs couldn't continue - they had to have offices outside their homes. At first these offices were scattered rooms in different buildings but in 1973 Abbey House (I'll provide a picture if you want - there are some in the public domain) was acquired for this purpose.

JBonnerAnglican (talk) 07:00, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Page Break

Abbey House

JBonnerAnglican At this point, I believe I have covered most of the items listed above. Please check the two paragraphs added re: Abbey House. Probably needs copyediting, please. Other items needed:

Info Box

 Not done I have not been able to add his denomination, thus far. Planning to ask for assistance, from the original editor. I think we need a different "template" to accomplish this. "Buidhe" can help me, I'm sure, as she added the present box. The infobox template being used, "Infobox academic", does not feature a Denomination option. I will consider the "religious person" boxes, as an option. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 21:45, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

That was my fault, as I copy-pasted the box from one of my father's colleagues. Mea culpa.JBonnerAnglican (talk) 10:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Civil liberties

Previously, you stated:

"You might want to add a section on Civil Liberties at some point. My father was involved in a long-running battle with the BBC regarding his refusal to state that he did not own a television (which he didn't) on the grounds that it was not their right to ask and we ended up getting a visit from the police who entered using an invalid warrant. I'll try and find the references."

Let me know when you find refs, etc. I have skimmed Television licensing in the United Kingdom which should supply supporting documentation regarding this. I think that these two sections of the article pertain to the situation. [[1]] and [[2]].

So, I can add explanatory notes, with refs, in addition to the required secondary sources which report your father's "confrontation" with the police, as well as the "long-running battle".

Even if we cannot add this incident, etc. to the article, I must admit that I am dreadfully curious about the event. I have a image of this upright, respectable, highly-educated man, presenting a crucifix to "ward off" the BBC/policemen who have invaded his home on false pretenses! (I mean no disrespect.) As I am an American, I may need help with the nuances of the laws, etc. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 02:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Good morning TT,

Thank you for your hard work. The photographs look very nice and I'm hoping to scan in an image or two from family sources (identity theft matters less for the dead).

In answer to your question, I was present for the raid on January 12 1990 and it was more than a little incongruous with the two police officers looking as if they would rather be elsewhere and the two television license inspectors somewhat bemused by the fact that they were raiding a middle-class household with bookshelves on every floor! My father was unusually livid (all the more so when he discovered that the magistrate who had signed off (rather illegibly) on the warrant had omitted the year which, since it was valid for only one month from the date of issue, called into question whether it had actually been issued in 1990).

My father's Letter to the Editor was in The Times of 22 January 1990 (issue 63609) p.13.

Possible quotes to use/paraphrase:

"Suspicion had been engendered by the fact that I had refused, over a period of several years, to answer inspectors' enquiries, since I did not see why I should have to deny possessing what I did not possess and did not want, when I was not legally compelled to do so."

"It would appear that those who enforce law and order do not apply their principles to their own affairs."

"[It] is clear that, in Britain at the end of the 20th century, not to own a television receiver automatically makes an individual an object of suspicion and subject to investigation. This I find the most disturbing aspect of the affair."

I'm getting an online church history module ready for September so am likely to be dropping in and out with additional material, if you're willing to humour my rather erratic course. As always, thanks for your engagement. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 10:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks all the above! I am "rather chuffed" that I managed to find & add the images! Please keep in mind that the copyright of any photo you scan belongs to the photographer, but as you have family members avail. to provide releases, that can be dealt with.

Thanks for the TV story. Curiousity satisfied! Will consider, and tinker, etc. I may post futher notes to you, but I won't expect an immediate reply, of course. Thanks for letting me know that you are busy, etc. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 20:22, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful. The photographs I had in mind are in my mother's possession but in many cases it's anyone's guess who took them and I doubt they're any longer in the land of the living. My mother can certainly provide authorisation if needed. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 21:26, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

JBonnerAnglican, WP has some fairly stringent rules pertaining to the copyright of photographers, and as far as I know, the rights do not end at the photographer's death, but are in force for many years (decades) later. Just like written works, as best I know. If you load photos of your father to Commoms, choose some that were made by family members, or friends, who are willing to provide a Creative Commons release, to authorize the use of their work.

Anything posted on WP, text or images, is licensed for reuse in any manner. So, we protect the copyright of the "creators" on the front end, to the very best of our ability. I am not well-versed in this topic, but I "know" someone on WP, who is very knowledgable in such matters, MarchJuly. While you are busy in RL, I will ask MJ, a kind and supportive person, for advice. Best, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!}

For MJ's information, most of what I had in mind would be more than sixty years old (1940s-1960s). Anything after that would be photographs taken by my mother of myself (and we're happy to make them more widely available). JBonnerAnglican (talk) 08:37, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@JBonnerAnglican:, Yes, please! Photos by you or your mother (or anyone who can provide "permission") will work with our Creative Commons licensing requirements perfectly well, so no need for me to, belatedly, consult MarchJuly. (Thanks) Even "after" the 1960s, he is still "a man in his prime", IMO. Your mother's assistance after their marriage was of great benefit to him, so the period of his life from that point onwards is important, of course! And the start of many happy years, no doubt. (Kudos to your mother!) When you are ready, I can add a photo that you uploaded to Commons. I don't have experience with this, but can research, if you need pointers. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 01:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Good news

While searching about for other sources and info, I was able to gain access to the Hardy text concerning GB, thru Google. Planning to add as additional refs, if I can. So, I have been able to personally confirm previously stated info, by JBA, and add, in my own words, some other bits and pieces. Oh, joy! Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 02:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful; so much better than my paraphrasing. JBonnerAnglican (talk) 08:35, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@JBonnerAnglican:, your paraphasing was just fine, but reading for myself allowed me to pick up some items of interest. You were already familiar with the info, of course, but it was "new" to me. I have always enjoyed going through a source, and "mining" additional info to add to an article. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 01:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Question, per Times article, civil liberties

 Done JBonnerAnglicanThese quotes are fine, but as an editor, I need to see the entire article, so that I may provide the background, in my own words. Is is possible for you to scan the entire letter to The Times, and email it to me off online? Or provide me with a link, where I can read it. I did a search, but was unable to access, as I do not have a subscription, etc., as may be readily available to you, per your University online access.

We are not allowed to post such a scan, even on a talk page, per US copyright laws. Please note per my edit on your talkpage, that you can send this info to me offline, and then I can craft the paragraph, etc.

Despite the fact that my ref to The Times article may not allow me to actually read it, online, the good ref: "The Times of 22 January 1990 (issue 63609) p.13.", which I shall have to format, of course, satifies our requirement of WP:V, verifiable. This is why paper sources are readily accepted. Online sources are not required, we just need to know that the info is verifiable somewhere. More arcane, but understandable regulations. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 01:35, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@JBonnerAnglican:, Thanks for providing the scanned letter. I have modeled the Civil Liberties section on the Theological section, by filling in the background with sources and info I found on WP. I may have to tinker and copyedit a bit more, cmts welcome, etc.Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 07:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Future projects for TT

• Consider a new section that provides a "literary" overview. Wish to highlight the importance, etc of his Augustinian body of work. Have good source, re:Hardy, Book reviews? etc.
• Review Bede and Cuthbert section (D.Univ.) reorganize?
• Chronologically speaking, this bio "ends" in 1994, which leaves 1994-2013 unaccounted for...nearly twenty years! Post-1994 interest in Palagian Controversy mentioned by Hardy. Two books published, 1996 & 2007. Possibly these "later years" can be covered in the Literary section. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:46, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Found a work quoted here on WP: Bonner, Gerald (2004). "Pelagius (fl. c.390–418), theologian". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/21784. Retrieved 28 October 2012. (subscription or UK public library membership required)