Talk:Frandor Shopping Center

The Frandor Mall is listed in the Lansing article as the first mall in the Lansing area and second in the state of Michigan. The mall is the only outdoor mall of the 3 malls in the Lansing area. There have been various renovations since its opening and it has maintained a position as the areas foremost shopping complex serving the downtown Lansing and Michigan State University areas. I intend to further develop the article in the near future, I was just getting the stub out there.Feltcap (talk) 13:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Frandor was enclosed for a period of years (maybe ten?) before its major overhaul in the 1990s, but it was built as a shopping center and is one today. It is not a mall. Additionally, the paragraph about the AJ Wright store strikes this reader as strange. Frandor, like all shopping centers, has merchant turnover. There's no reason to pick out this one instance as worthy of mention among the hundreds of others over the past 56 years. --Joeyharrison (talk) 11:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

It's mentioned since it occupies and anchor location, and since there is so little turnover in anchor locations. Look at any other page for malls and shopping centers (a distinction, really, that doesn't need to be made as a mall is a shopping center), and you'll see that anchor store changes are usually always noted. --Criticalthinker (talk) 20:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

It still strikes me as peculiar, especially being placed in the "History" section. Far more notable anchor changes -- and more historical -- is Wrigley's supermarket becoming Packers supermarket. When Kroger's became a sports bar (can't remember the name). When Grinell's became Marshall Music. When Federal's Department store became -- what did it become? I don't remember now.

Also, Frandor was not the first mall in the Lansing area. The first was the Lansing Mall. Frandor preceded Lansing Mall, but it wasn't a mall when it was built. And it wasn't a mall until years after the Lansing Mall was built. A mall may be a shopping center, but a shopping center is not a mall. Malls are enclosed, and Frandor wasn't enclosed until after the Lansing Mall was built. Joeyharrison (talk) 03:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

What you're doing is playing an unnecessary games of semantics. As for anchors, current anchors are listed on pages of shopping centers. If you'd like to move them out of the history section, that's all right with me. I really think you're being incredibly picky. Why not go and check around at the pages for other shopping centers and malls around the country to see the wiki standard for pages like this, ok? Wiki makes little to no distinction whether a mall is enclosed or open-air. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:48, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Sears is an Anchor Store

I have a copy of an article, in the Lansing State Journal, Sears Deal Negotiated, issue of November 3, 1953, (page 1) written before construction began on Frandor, detailing the heavy effort Corr spent to put together a deal to get Sears to move out of their old downtown store, and into Frandor. This was not simply a case of selling Sears on renting in Frandor, he had to buy their old store, and sell them the land in Frandor under their new store, in order to get them to make the move. So Corr did not begin building the rest of Frandor, until he had secured Sears as his anchor store. Sears is part of Frandor, and an anchor store for Frandor. Corr thought this, the Lansing State Journal thought this, and those of us living in that area at the time thought this. Nick Beeson (talk) 20:39, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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