Talk:Ukrainians in Finland
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 | On 3 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Finnish Ukrainians to Ukrainians in Finland. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 3 June 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 00:53, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Finnish Ukrainians → Ukrainians in Finland – erroneous name because "Finnish Ukrainians" refers to Finns in Ukraine. The correct name would be "Ukrainian Finns", but, since most related articles are named "Ukrainians in x" (see articles in e.g. Category:Ukrainian diaspora by country), "Ukrainians in Finland" seems to be better name. 2001:14BA:9CDE:AF00:B95C:DED4:4C97:8081 (talk) 22:18, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - You are incorrect about it needing to be "Ukrainian Finns", as that is not what is generally used on Wikipedia. For example British Chinese refers to Chinese people in Britain. Similarly, Finnish Ukrainians refers to Ukrainians in Finland. aaronneallucas (talk) 16:10, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support: oh wow, the page currently has the phrases "Finnish Ukrainians", "Ukrainian Finns" and "Ukrainians in Finland" in bold as soon as you open it. This is a headache. Move to "Ukrainians in Finland" seems best to me as it matches existing pages and is unambiguous. The point about British Chinese is an interesting one, but the article seems to be named that way primarily because this is an existing term in the United Kingdom, not because it's policy. Akakievich (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support per WP:CONSISTENCY with other articles in Category:Ukrainian diaspora in Europe and Category:Ethnic groups in Finland. Contra nominator there is no rule in English about which order to mash demonyms together; it's a WP:ENGVAR issue. Both "Finnish Ukrainians" and "Ukrainian Finns" spectacularly fail WP:COMMONAME [1][2][3][4]. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 00:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
how many?
edithttps://pxdata.stat.fi/PxWeb/pxweb/en/Maahanmuuttajat_ja_kotoutuminen/Maahanmuuttajat_ja_kotoutuminen__Maahanmuuttajat_ja_kotoutuminen/maakoto_pxt_11vz.px/table/tableViewLayout1/ REPORTS Migration by Year, Nationality and Information Immigration to Finland 2023 Ukraine 19,917 91.154.169.156 (talk) 11:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
recent numbers
edit75,000 Ukrainians in Finland, attitudes hardening According to Migri, around 10,000 Ukrainians arrived in Finland during the first nine months of this year. The agency estimates that up to 12,000 Ukrainians will arrive in the country before the end of the year.
That is down from last year’s total of 19,000. In 2022, when the war began, 46,000 Ukrainians fled to Finland. Altogether, approximately 75,000 Ukrainians have arrived since February 2022.
According to Migri, around 22,000 of the Ukrainians who have arrived in Finland are in the reception system, while around the same number have been granted residence permits.
The rest are thought to have either returned to Ukraine or moved elsewhere within the EU, said Serradj. source: https://yle.fi/a/74-20117603 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.169.156 (talk) 17:37, 13 October 2024 (UTC)