Talk:Elihu Root

photo

I know the photo looks better on the left, but it messed up the bulletting there, so I moved it to the right hand side. If we get more info here, we can move it back to the left. RickK 00:30, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)

nephew

I met a great great nephew of Elihu Root working here at the Library of Congress. The young Root works in the House of Representatives.

bio info from Elihu Root House

There's some potentially useful bio info in the NRHP documentation now linked at the Elihu Root House article, if anyone cares to incorporate any of that into the Elihu Root article. I am working on the House article, and not the Elihu Root article, myself.doncram 23:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Root's position on Federal Reserve

I put the quote back in the article because the sourc eis reliable. The editor who removed it did not give a reason why he believes it is unreliable. Mpublius 13:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Mpublius, this has become absurd. I most certainly did explain why I believe the source to be unreliable: in my edit summary ([1], I stated:

deleted quote supported by unreliable source (http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pz-art-mcfadden.html) - web site makes incoherent arguments about central banking

You then reverted my deletion without explanation ([2]). I then reverted your reversion ([3]) with the comment "re-delete quote - the source is unreliable, & Wikipedia is not a quote farm". The latter part of comment, in case you are (as usual) ignoring the point, means that random collections of quotations attributed to a person are not appropriate for Wikipedia; Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a quotation reference.

You then reverted me again, misrepresenting the situation once again, by saying that you had "removed unexplained revert" ([4])—do you think you are the only person who can access the article histories?

Finally, when Famspear reverted your second reversion, pointing out it in his edit summary that my deletion had been explained, you reverted one more time, suddenly inventing a new rule (as you are wont to do) that all explanations of reversions must be on the talk page ([5]). (Despite the fact, that up until that point, all your explanations of reversions had been made in edit summaries.)

To be absolutely clear, your supposed reliable source—"PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™—is patently unreliable:

It is a Self-published source that is most certainly not "produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications". The fact that the author is trolling for "donations" ought to be a clue.

It is an Extremist source, making the extreme minority claim that all interest is "usury", and therefore, evil.

You are using this (highly questionable) source to support the Exceptional claim that Elihu Root, a respected Senator, made extreme claims about a future economic catastrophe caused by the Federal Reserve.

Finally, the web site contains demonstrably false information. On its "Historic Quotes" page, at least two of quotes are known frauds: Jefferson's supposed quote about the evils of "inflation and deflation" (which would have had to have been made long before the term "deflation" was invented); and Woodrow Wilson's supposed quote about having "ruined the country" by supporting the Federal Reserve Act, which quote the article on America: From Freedom to Fascism already explains is a fraud.

Finally, it is obvious you copied in the introductory sentence to the quote (beginning "A few days before...") in direct violation of Wikipedia's Copyright policy.

Do you really think no one will notice what you are doing? — Mateo SA (talk | contribs) 05:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed the quotes section. This article is also very bad because it is a narrative of original research, and contains very few links to external sources. Mpublius 20:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

new york sec. of war?

I am new at this could someone fix this in the bio. section. 41 new york united states secretary of war. I dont think soJ8079s (talk) 06:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Root name

I just came upon a very intersting story involving my mother ( Helen Root) born in 1915 in GrandGorge NY. She stated just prior to her death in 1998 that the physician who delivered her suggested she be named Elihu after a very famous person. Her parents did name her this but when obtaining her birth certificate were told it was a male name. Her father (born 1886) came from Lithuania and his real last name was Racievicz. Upon arrival in the US it was changed to Root. Any chance of some connection with the last name of Mr. Elihu Root?The reason I am curious is that I cannot find any records of my grandfather's arrival to the US. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.251.109.94 (talk) 02:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Root and the Philippines

According to an opinion piece in 'The Independent' newspaper

"[Root's] policies in the Philippines led to half a million deaths at the turn of the 20th century."

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/ian-birrell-this-award-is-premature-ndash-and-potentially-very-foolish-1800568.html

I came here hoping to find some background to this claim. 91.107.194.182 (talk) 16:46, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Root and Computers?

Having Fourier-Transform dated to before 1900 it suggests, computers were avialable at that time. Did he have any relation to computers? "root" is a user with all priviliges on most Linux-Systems. --2003:74:F26:7A9A:E009:F7F6:D415:8E1E (talk) 23:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

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Devised?

"He also devised the principle of rotating officers from staff to line."

Oh he did, did he? Root did not devise this idea, which has commonly used before then in Napoleon's army and others. During Root's expansion and modernization of the Army, this standard process of rotating the staff and line became common. That was part of "modernization." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tributations (talk • contribs) 00:56, 23 August 2019 (UTC)