Talk:Eleanor Schonell Bridge

Naming Issues

The Green Bridge has been officially given a new name (Eleanor Schonell Bridge). I think that this article should be moved to that page, and changes be made to reflect that change. The Green Bridge, Brisbane page can then redirect to the new title. However, until the bridge is opened in an official sense (January 2007), I don't think that there is any need for any change for the moment. Just an idea, what does anyone else think? Aggelophoros 13:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't have any strong opinions on when the article gets moved, as long as it does get moved. I think the sooner the better though. It will save having to change more wikilinks in future if more wikilinks are greated between now and then... and as it does have a propoer name, I think we should use it. -- Adz|talk 05:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point about doing sooner than later. I just redirected it, and there shouldn't be any problems with it. Aggelophoros 08:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Images

If anyone can help, a new image of the completed bridge would greatly benefit the article. Cheers --- BrightLights 09:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Done and done. Bilious 07:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

The Green Bridge

Points to note:

• The Eleanor Schonell Bridge was known as the 'Green Bridge' during it's conception and contruction because it was a sustainable transport iniative
• Most people continue to refer to the Bridge as the 'Green Bridge' in preference to the 'Eleanor Schonell Bridge'

• The current forumaltion: "(previously known as the Green Bridge because it was intended to be a sustainable transport initiative — not because of its colour)" Is unsatisfactory because it doesn't mention that the Bridge is still widely known as the 'Green Bridge' and because it is clumsy and unnecessary to mention the colour of bridge in the article, there is nothing confusing about the fact that it was called the Green Bridge, despite not being green in colour.
• previous forumaltions: "(previously known as the Green Bridge)" and "originally and commonly known as the Green Bridge" are also unsatisfactory because the leave out the required information.

I propose that we alter the introduction of the article to read: "The Eleanor Schonell Bridge, also known as the Green Bridge, is a 390 metre (1,280 ft) long cable-stayed bridge which crosses the Brisbane River between Dutton Park and the University of Queensland's St Lucia campus."

And add the following text under the heading "Naming of the Bridge":

"During it's conception and construction, the bridge was known as the 'Green Bridge' because it was a sustainable transport iniative and since the naming many people have continued to call it the Green Bridge in preference to it's offical name" Grumpyyoungman01 06:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the rewording of the intro. It is a more concise. Rimmeraj 11:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Its versus It's

Please please please, "it's" is an abbreviation of "it is". You would just want to write "its", which is a possessive. Thank you. (page modified) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.162.74.220 (talk • contribs)

I find it very difficult to distinguish between the two. I think the problem stems from primary school when a teacher said that you use an apostrophe to denote ownership as in "Grumpyyoungman01's car" or "the car's seat pocket" and then if we take an object like the car, but call it "it" instead, why don't we continue to say "it's seat pocket?" to refer to the car's seat pocket? It's logical after all. Grumpyyoungman01 10:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

You will just have to accept that "it's" always means "it is" — and that the possessive is "its". It's not hard to remember which to use, and in which context. Figaro 15:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

What about a Mnemonic? We all have our flaws. My favourite grammar one is RAVEN, Affect - verb, Effect - noun. Grumpyyoungman01 04:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Your suggestion about a Mnemonic is a good idea. By the way, I like your RAVEN grammar Mnemonic. Thank you for sharing it with us (I had not heard it before). Figaro 13:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

A lecturer once told us the difference between the two and ended up suggesting that: a) the abbreviation should never be used in formal writing because it is sloppy, and b) the possessive shouldn't be used and the owner should be stated. This led to his conclusion that neither case of it's or its should be used at all. Personally, I don't give a damn half the time and I avoid using either one when I can't remember which one to use. Aggelophoros 13:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Referencing News Stories

How would one reference something out of a news story on National Nine News in this article? There does not seem to be any local news content available on the internet. Of particular importance is the Lord Mayor's comments that the increased commuter uptake due to the Eleanor Schonell Bridge only confirmed the fact the bridge needed to be built in the first place. The story also highlighted the unexpected amount of commuters using the bridge, with Translink being unable to provide enough buses to carry them as of this time. I think this is pretty significant as it highlights the amount of traffic in Brisbane is being directly attributed to Saint Lucia. The news story occurred on Thursday, 1 March, 2007 in the evening news (6pm). -- Permafrost 09:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Some statistics

Could someone add more stats please? eg. how long does it take to walk across at casual speed? what about using a bicycle? Benno bne 04:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

That might be hard to get without involving original research. -- Permafrost 10:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I am a commuter that uses the bridge daily. For cyclists, going TO the uni, it normally takes two mins to cross, and going in the opposite direction, it takes around four or five. This is because going to the uni, you have a slope where you can build up your speed.

For a pedestrian, I find it takes around 5 to 10mins to cross, going at a casual walking pace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.10.54 (talk) 03:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)