Talk:Edurne Pasaban

12 summits

For now it is unclear whether Edurne was the first or second to achieve 13 peaks of 8000 meters, because one or two summits from Miss Oh have been marked as disputed. I prefer to stick to facts, so we can surely say that Edurne was the first to reach 12 summits. --Jordiferrer (talk) 09:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

If you check the following PDF, located at "TOP5 ladies" you will see that Edurne - indeed, as you have stated - was the first to tack 12 summits above 8000m. Qwrk (talk) 10:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. On your PDF document we see that Oh Eun-Sun reach her 12th summit on 10.07.2009, Gerlinde did on 20.05.2009, and Edurne on 17.05.2009, so there is no discussion about which woman reached 12 summits first. But, if we try to analyze who was the first to reach 13 or 14 summits, we should wait until Elizabeth Hawley resolves the dispute regarding Oh's kanchenjunga summit of 2009.--Jordiferrer (talk) 00:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with that. Hurley however is not a journalist so let's not try to legitimize her in text by adding titles to her name.Melonbarmonster2 (talk) 01:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

How is she not a journalist? [1] She has been referred to as a historian as well, although she does her work largely using direct journalistic methods. As to "legitimizing," her work is considered more than legitimate among mountaineers -- virtually all Himalayan expeditions for many decades have met with her or her staff before departing, and she thus has long been a respected source of verified information on climbing history in the area. Steveozone (talk) 02:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

She is a former journalist who currently maintains a database of Himalayan climbs. Her database may be legitimate but your attempt at adding the "journalist" title to her name in text of article is POV and unnecessary. Just hyperlinking her name to her wiki article is more than sufficient in allowing readers to form their own opinions about her titles former and present.Melonbarmonster2 (talk) 03:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Huh? Not my attempt; you must have me confused with someone else. I'm just pointing out that she is indeed legitimate and a reliable source, a point that seemed to be questioned. Steveozone (talk) 06:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Melonbarmonster2, whether you're able to see this or not; removing the term "journalist" constitutes as much POV as the adding of it might. The issue of importance is that Liz Hawley is as reliable a source in this field of play as you'll ever be able to find.

Qwrk (talk) 08:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh's response

This article is about Edurne Pasaban, so it does not make sense that the 2 sections with "Miss Oh response" are bigger that the article itself, specially when Oh's response is already available at her article. A short sentence explaining that Oh has responded will be sufficient. Regarding Hawley, she acknowledges Oh feat, but keeps "disputed" status. That is all we should say for now. --Jordiferrer (talk) 08:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Messner voices his opinion

FYI, Timesonline has an article today in which Reinhold voices his opinion. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7129132.ece Qwrk (talk) 10:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

We must agree with Messner in that being 5 meters from the summit is the same as reaching the summit. However, the dispute was based on some "summit photos" taken at least 200 meters below. The article does not say anything regarding the 5 reasons why Oh's summit was disputed. Do we have any recent news from Hawley? Jordiferrer (talk) 12:26, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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