Talk:EFL League Two play-offs

Proposed format change

It would seem logical that each final will eventually become an article in its own right. Also, this article is going to get ever longer over time. Given this, I propose that this article be changed to a simple list, with a table giving the basic information such as names of teams, score, venue, attendance and possibly the names of the losing semi-finalists. --Jameboy (talk) 18:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Vaticidalprophet (talk · contribs) 04:00, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Solid article. Sparse notes:

1. You open with a very long, comma-less sentence (The EFL League Two play-offs are a series of play-off matches contested by the association football teams finishing from fourth to seventh in the EFL League Two table and are part of the English Football League play-offs), which is a bit imposing to dive right in with. It may be possible to cut this sentence after "in the EFL League Two table" and have "They are part of the English Football League play-offs" as a new one.
2. Admittedly kind of the opposite note, but the opening sentence also doesn't explain to an outside reader what the EFL League Two is. I see from the linked article that it's the third and lowest division of the English Football League (EFL) and fourth-highest division overall in the English football league system. You could try finishing from fourth to seventh in the EFL League Two table, the fourth tier of the English football league system as an acceptable basic introduction that neither patronizes readers who know nor confuses people who've happened upon the article. Alternatively, you could rejig in a different direction: The EFL League Two play-offs are a series of play-off matches contested by the association football teams finishing from fourth to seventh in the EFL League Two table. They are part of the English Football League play-offs, as the third and lowest division of the English Football League and fourth division overall in the English football league system. (You do introduce the concept in the first section, but considering how many readers only look at the lead it's worth reiterating there.)
3. In March 1985 at the semi-final of the 1984–85 Football League Cup between Chelsea and Sunderland where more than 100 people were arrested after various invasions of the Stamford Bridge pitch and more than 40 people, including 20 policemen, were injured is a bit of a confused sentence -- I think you have an extraneous "where" in there.
4. Nine days later, violence flared at the FA Cup match between Millwall and Luton Town: seats were used as missiles against the police and resulted in Luton Town banning away supporters. Quite possibly a personal style difference, but I'm unconvinced of the need for this colon. It strikes me as wanting to be either two sentences or to be separated by a semi-colon instead.
5. On 11 May, 56 people were killed and 265 injured in the Bradford City stadium fire and less than three weeks later, 39 supporters died and more than 600 were injured in the Heysel Stadium disaster where Liverpool were playing Juventus in the European Cup final. The "and" here poses a similar problem to the preivous colon, where it seems best fit as either a semi-colon or a new sentence.
6. before the 1985–86 Football League season with League president Jack Dunnett suggesting is in the middle of a long sentence, and I think it would scan better with a comma after 'season'.
7. They were initially introduced for two years but with the proviso that if they were successful with the general public, they would be retained permanently. The "but" here raises questions. Trial introductions like this are common in a lot of fields; is the "but" meant to imply that they're uncommon here, and that the play-offs were expected to be limited to two years? Otherwise, "two years with the proviso", no "but", gets across the idea of the trial.
8. This is technically contra the MOS and so feel free to tell me to shut up, but links for the team names under "Records" would be appreciated. While for desktop readers they can scroll up a relatively short distance to the links, mobile readers (who make up around 60% of all readers) can only see individual sections they expand. I can easily imagine mobile readers being interested in seeing the records of who's won or lost the most times without wanting to read (and by extension not expanding the section about) all the winners and semi-finalists ever, and they're a bit lost if that section is a linkless dead end but they want to read about the individual teams.

Over to you. Vaticidalprophet 04:00, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Vaticidalprophet thanks for your comments, I believe I've addressed them all. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:52, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

A good article which is now a Good Article -- passing. Vaticidalprophet 08:59, 2 July 2021 (UTC)