Talk:Drummully

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Jnestorius in topic Coleman's Island

Coleman's Island

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Why "Coleman's Island"? Possibly relevant snippets:

  • "Probably about a fifth of the land [in Drummully Parish] is bog. Timber occurs very generally imbedded in all the bogs, oak and fir, and very rarely yew. There are some instances of islands in them. Coleman Island is the principal." (Ordnance Survey Memoirs v.4 p.35)
  • One of the townlands is called "Coleman", of which logainm.ie notes an 1805 reference to "Colmon Island" in the registry of deeds (CGn.)
  • The patron of the old parish church in Drummully townland was Mochumma Lives of Saints v1 p61 ...
    • Mochumma = "Mo Chumma" aka Coman: "Drummully appears in the fifteenth century as: 'the parish church of St Coman of Drummalchi', connected with the family of O Gabhann" (Fermanagh: history and society p.585)
    • "Coman" > "Coleman" is an easy slip.
    • (Different from saints Coman mac Faelchon and Coman of Kinvara, to say nothing of the many Colmán saints.)

jnestorius(talk) 23:36, 29 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Pádraig Ó Riain 2011 A dictionary of Irish saints p. 188 (Dublin : Four Courts Press) "In the church of Drummully (Druim Ailche), which gave name to a parish partly in the barony of Dartree, but mainly in the Fermanagh barony of Coole, another namesake and probable double [of Colmán of Dromore] was remembered hypocoristically on 4 January under the guise of Mochumma (alias Coman)." jnestorius(talk) 20:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Colman, Son Of Corodran, Of Meelick, County Of Monaghan
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In the Martyrology of Tallagh,[2] there is an entry, Colman Mac Corardain o Imleach Brean. The place and festival of this saint at Imlech Brenn is noticed under the parish of Emlagh or Imlagh, also called Imleach-Fia and Imlach-Beccain, in the barony of Lower Kells and county of Meath.[3] In the Martyrology of Donegal,[4] we find St. Colman, son of Corodran, of Miliuc, in Dartrighe Coin-insi, was venerated at the 15th of June. The Meelick, in which this saint's memory had been celebrated, may have been situated within the barony of Dartry, in the western part of Monaghan County. Its ancient denomination was Dartraighe Coininnsi,[5] which is said to mean Dartrey of the Dog's Island, and it now forms the barony of Dartery, in county of Monaghan.[6] Yet, his place has been assigned to that part of Clones parish, which lies within the county of Fermanagh.[7]
  1. ^ O'Hanlon, John (1873). "June 15; Article II:". Lives of the Irish Saints. Vol. VI. London.: James Duffy. p. 671. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)
  2. ^ Edited by Rev. Dr. Kelly, p. xxvii.
  3. ^ See Rev. A. Cogan's "Diocese of Meath, Ancient and Modern," vol. i., chap, xxiii., p. 136. The author appears to suspect identity between both of those places.
  4. ^ Edited by Drs. Todd and Reeves, pp. 170, 171.
  5. ^ See Dr. O'Donovan's "Annals of the Four Masters," vol. i., n. (z), pp. 510, 511.
  6. ^ See Evelyn Philip Shirley's " History of the County of Monaghan," chap, i., p. 11, n. 11.
  7. ^ By John W. Hanna of Downpatrick, in a letter to the writer, and dated 17th of November, 1873.

jnestorius(talk) 11:25, 3 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Miliuc is not Meelick but Magheraveely [1] jnestorius(talk) 17:19, 3 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

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I started this page about 6 years ago after wondering far too long about a mysterious Google Maps mystery I had, it's amazing to see all the work everyone's put into it.Knoper (talk) 02:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply