Talk:Disaster film

Requested move

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 01:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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Disaster film → Disaster movie — These are commonly know as Disaster movies. Some editors want to impose the guideline name for individual films which says to use film. However this guideline does not apply to, nor should it, to genre classes of films. This should be moved to the same name as the category to end any confusion. Vegaswikian 00:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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Survey - in support of the move

1. Support - that's what they are known as even in the UK. -- Beardo 08:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
2. Support - I have to admit this one that the North Americans have right in terms of unambiguousness, film is the material used to record and transmit motion pictures or movies. Plus, "disaster film" sounds like some kind of oil spill residue. —  AjaxSmack  10:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
3. Support per nom. I don't think that "Disaster film" is used anywhere to refer to the genre. "This film is a disaster movie" is entirely idomatic BrE. Tevildo 14:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

   Comment - "Disaster film" is used in the UK - and I daresay the rest of the Commonwealth. In fact, the word "movie" is not used in the UK at all - except by people who are speaking American English. EuroSong ^talk 19:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)'

4. Weak Support per nom and google test that shows 1.7 times as many hits for "disaster movie" than "disaster film". --Serge 22:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

   There you go again, Serge. The "Google test" means nothing, except that there are more American people writing on the internet than there are British people. But that does not make it right. This is an English-language Wikipedia; not usa.wikipedia.org. *sigh* EuroSong ^talk 00:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

5. Support per category page discussions. Sumahoy 21:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Survey - in opposition to the move

1. Oppose - "Film" is Commonwealth English, "Movie" is American English. Simple as that. There is no need to change this. WP policy says that no one variety of English is better than the other, and "Film" is used in this page originally. Therefore it should stay. EuroSong ^talk 19:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
2. Oppose per the UK/AME "Use Original Title" solution. This is another case of English differences and the original title should be kept. 205.157.110.11 02:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
3. Oppose, contrary to what Vegaswikian says I don't think there's anything wrong with being consistent in the use of "film" over "movie". PC78 18:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
4. Week oppose. Mostly per 205.157.110.11's argument. ^BlankVerse 13:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

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Comment Wasn't there recently a change for Disaster movie category to Category:Disaster films? I'm an American, and I admit I'm uncomfortable with the word film, but then we shouldn't mess with English/American differences. Xiner (talk, email) 03:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• That request did not get consensus. Several comments there were to rename the article. Some of the support comments were to change the cat to match the article. Vegaswikian 06:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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High concept films

Shouldn't this be linked in to the term high concept ? -- Beardo 19:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Name and referencing

This needs support by referencing - perhaps they will show whether "disaster film" or "disaster movie" is correct. (I'm English, but I think of them as "disaster movies"). -- Beardo 19:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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King Kong?

I don't think King Kong fits the definition of a disaster film at all but I wouldn't delete it without checking here first. Can anyone defend its inclusion?PatrickWB (talk) 00:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Cloverfield

Would Cloverfield be considered a disaster film? D.Mandalore (talk) 12:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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Twister vs. Executive Decision

I understand the original research tag applied to the revival section. It seems to me that Twister had much more to do with the revival of this genre than Executive Decision. - cgilbert^{(talk|contribs)} 17:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Appearance of the President of the United States in disaster movies

Does the occasional appearance of the U.S. president in disaster movies warrant a mention in the introductory paragraph ? Many figures of authority (heads of state, politicians, military officials, etc.) appear in this type of film, from many countries, so highlighting one seems unrepresentative of the genre. I don't recall the president appearing in any of the 'classic' '70s disaster movies, which are included as examples in the first paragraph.

Perfect Storm as a Disaster Film?

I've started a discussion here regarding whether or not The Perfect Storm should be classified as a disaster film. Additional opinions are welcome. Thanks! Doniago (talk) 19:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced information

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Literary sources

==Literary sources== Movies from the disaster film genre are often based on novels. In many cases, the novels were bestsellers or critically acclaimed works. Three of the genre-defining disaster films of the 1970s were based on best-selling novels: Airport (based on the novel by Arthur Hailey), The Poseidon Adventure (based on the novel by Paul Gallico), and The Towering Inferno (from the novels The Tower by Richard Martin Stern and The Glass Inferno by Thomas N. Scortia and Frank M. Robinson). Some critically acclaimed novels that were turned into disaster films include On the Beach (by Nevil Shute), The War of the Worlds (by H. G. Wells), Fail-Safe (by Eugene Burdick and Harvey Wheeler) and A Night to Remember (non-fiction by Walter Lord).