Talk:David Kaonohiokala Bray

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This sentence is a direct quote but no citation given: ..."In the developing tourist economy, Hawaiian cultural practitioners like David and Lydia Bray labored to revive traditional forms of hula but also put themselves on display..."

This sentence has no citation and doesn't make sense. Who in the New Age movement tried? "The budding New Age movement of Huna tried to get Daddy Bray involved with their teachings but he did not for fear of confusing the New Age phenomena with the Ancient Hawaiian Teachings."

These sentences need a citation: During the counterculture days of the mid to late 60's, David K Bray tried several approaches to explain and correct misunderstandings about his teachings. Seeing an opportunity which was different than the traditional Westernized missionary approach, David Bray sometimes found himself in places and with people that seemingly had their own agenda. John Starr Cooke of the notable Castle & Cooke family, referred to him as "Big Daddy Bray" in a faux attempt at re-branding Bray's image as a Hippie/Surfer teacher, a popular image of the growing movement of the time.Eventually aligning himself with the more mature New Thought churches like Unity & Science of Mind, these too didn't quite fit the bill. His teachings and understanding, would for the most part fall on deaf ears, and be relegated more to the likes of Joseph Campbell's myths and legends.

The above paragraph also sounds suspiciously like original research.

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This paragraph sounds like the ramblings of a new ager on LSD: Daddy Bray's ancestors departed Heukovi village in Hopiland, near Oraibi, because they were Sun Clan People and amongst the strongest miracle manifestors of the Hopi -- just like Dan Katchongva was. They departed because Great Spirit of This Land and Life (“Maassauu” in Hopi language) TOLD them to go to the west as far as possible because there were people over there who were in great trouble."... Daddy Bray told a story: he was living in a hotel room in Honolulu. He woke up early one morning, maybe two o’clock or so. There was a fire right in the middle of the rug in the middle of the floor. He thought the hotel was on fire. When he finally got his thoughts collected, a voice came out of the fire and told him to go to the Mainland and investigate a religious rebirth that was taking place there... [14]

If Daddy told such a story, surely it can be found in his own writings or in a more reliable source.

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A short lived experience, but useful with his Hollywood connections in trying to establish the legitimacy of Kahuna to the Western World. The budding New Age movement of Huna tried to get Daddy Bray involved with their teachings but he did not for fear of confusing the New Age phenomena with the Ancient Hawaiian Teachings. During the counterculture days of the mid to late 60's, David K Bray tried several approaches to explain and correct misunderstandings about his teachings. Seeing an opportunity which was different than the traditional Westernized missionary approach, David Bray sometimes found himself in places and with people that seemingly had their own agenda. John Starr Cooke of the notable Castle & Cooke family, referred to him as "Big Daddy Bray" in a faux attempt at re-branding Bray's image as a Hippie/Surfer teacher, a popular image of the growing movement of the time.
Eventually aligning himself with the more mature New Thought churches like Unity & Science of Mind, these too didn't quite fit the bill. His teachings and understanding, would for the most part fall on deaf ears, and be relegated more to the likes of Joseph Campbell's myths and legends.

Daddy Bray's ancestors departed Heukovi village in Hopiland, near Oraibi, because they were Sun Clan People and amongst the strongest miracle manifestors of the Hopi -- just like Dan Katchongva was. They departed because Great Spirit of This Land and Life (“Maassauu” in Hopi language) TOLD them to go to the west as far as possible because there were people over there who were in great trouble."... Daddy Bray told a story: he was living in a hotel room in Honolulu. He woke up early one morning, maybe two o’clock or so. There was a fire right in the middle of the rug in the middle of the floor. He thought the hotel was on fire. When he finally got his thoughts collected, a voice came out of the fire and told him to go to the Mainland and investigate a religious rebirth that was taking place there...

Often touting himself as "the Last Living Kahuna" [it is uncertain whether he was referring to the last Kahuna born in the 19th Century or the last Kahuna of the Royal Hawaiian bloodline].

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Several refs here are self-published by the individual

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Wiki9tor (talk) 03:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Will try to clean it up in the next few weeks. Mahalo.Makana Chai (talk) 07:11, 23 March 2014 (UTC)