Talk:Cotton paper

The Great Cotton-Rag Myth https://cool.culturalheritage.org/byorg/abbey/ap/ap05/ap05-5/ap05-503.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.215.108.27 (talk) 15:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Additional information needing to be checked

• believed to be Chinese invention - This contradicted by other reports being invented in Egypt. Need to figure out history.
• references in books indicating first seen in 1050 but this is only one reference.

I just like to add there is much research to be done on the history of this material, who invented, how it traveled. When I started this article my knowledge of the subject was more to do with banknote printing. I didn't realize the rich history that this material has had on our world today. There are many historical books that talk about the cotton paper and there are many contradictions.

The countries that produce cotton paper are the ones that I came across during my research of the topic. Although I haven't been able to find any definitive source of data.

Here is an interestin government report. [1] It contains information that may be distilled as to the current state of this industry. --Joewski 01:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Other fibers?

I am not convinced of the necessity of an article on cotton paper. First of all why cotton paper as the original paper invention involved other fibers? The History of paper article is where the information on this subject should go. Except the price of a sheet of cotton paper!
You don't mention Italy amongst the producers of cotton paper. This is quite funny historically, as you will realise searching the web for the name Fabriano, which still produces fine arts paper in cotton today. HumphUK (talk) 10:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The present article (August 2, 2009) is not very good, but an article on cotton paper is needed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment

I have never heard of cotton paper, but it helps for a project. I love paper.

Fiber length is a factor in paper strength whith longer fivers being stronger. Wood fibers typically 3 to 4 mm for softwood and less than 2 mm for hardwood. Cotton fibers are much longer, however, shorter cotton lint and waste from textiles are typically used for paper making. Historically, before synthetic fibers, cotton and linen rags were used for making paper.

Cotton is generally recognized as a superior fiber for paper making and is mainly limited by the high expense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.181.69.120 (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

History???

The History section describes Carta bombycina, a cotton paper, as originating in Pakistan, along with cotton itself. The paragraph mentions a book published in Pakistan, which for the average reader is not an accessible source. More research is needed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:01, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

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introduction section

I agree with the current banner in this article.

The introduction needs to e clearer and to the point, avoiding spurious claims and FUD. For example, cotton in itself does not prevent acidity: it's the presence of additives such as calcium carbonate that do that. Also, cotton by itself is no guarantee of higher quality or strength or most anything, a most common misconception. Very few people can actually recognize real cotton paper, and they need powerful microscopes to do that. Yes, MOST wood paper is short fibred, etc., because that is cheap, but you can get very high quality paper (and more "archival" than a lot of cotton paper going around) out of wood also.

OTOH, I do agree that an article on cotton paper is necessary in WP. Something important is to address in a balanced way the "image" that c.p. has in the arts market, as "cotton paper" is seen as the cat's meow, even though there is a lot that is much better if long fiber is your thing, like abaca. Precisely, the length of fiber seldom matters at all when you want to use paper, sizing (the chemicals that control how absorbent paper is) is much more important, and certainly high calcium carbonate content and other fillers. Very long fiber is important only in very thin paper, as used for origami, or for tea bags.

BTW, true rag paper is an incredible rarity in our days. Most so-called "rag paper" is actually made out of cotton linters, cotton waste from textile plants.

YamaPlos talk 17:17, 23 February 2017 (UTC)