Talk:Cha-La Head-Cha-La

Removal of valid cited material - Sep 30, 2010

To User:Sarujo

- Why do you continue to remove the simple facts supported by the established reliable sources ? ----Necro Butcher (Peace Be Upon Him) (talk) 14:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, besides the fact that it's not a reliable source, you have added the source poorly as you need the proper template for sourcing. Plus, you went and removed an already established reliable source. Sarujo (talk) 18:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done - and reply - No, both primary and secondary sources are welcome. If you're got some just add it. Don't remove an established reliable source. - No, Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources, though primary sources are permitted if used carefully. And by the way, Ms. Yuriko Mori was not involved with the albums at all, so her name is not credited on the albums. Take care. ----Necro Butcher (Peace Be Upon Him) (talk) 23:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay buddy, you're way out of line. You don't get to call the shots on a conversation, as I don't see you as an admin - so don't try to pretend like you are. Especially when you are exhibiting acts of bad faith. You throw out claims of rules guidelines but end up contradicting yourself by adding the same kind of source that you claim is invalid. Then in an attempt to show me up you make nonfactual claim without putting the meat on the plate. That is unbecoming of an editor. Your actions come off to me as acts of game and Wikilawyering.

Now for my spin. First off, sourcing those CD's can be classified a secondary sources as they are in no way tied to the subject's original production. Yet, keep in mind the nothing's set in stone. Second, you need sources to back up your claim that Mori is not credited in any cover. Afterall, she wrote the lyrics to both original and English versions. As any record label is bound by international copyright laws to credit her every time the original, remix, or cover version of the song is released. I know I have relatives in the music industry. But don't take my for it, see for yourself. Second, as you provided, the guideline states that primary is acceptable. So not use them is a personal preference on your part. There is nothing saying that primary is prohibited from GA or FA articles. Sarujo (talk) 04:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

So, what's the point? You claim that primary sources are reliable, it's ok. And, you still continue to remove the simple facts supported by the primary sources. So, what's the point? ----Necro Butcher (Peace Be Upon Him) (talk) 05:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

You have discredited yourself a trustworthy editor by making obvious untrue claims and poor conduct. So now naturally I going to remove any edit you make or source add on the grounds of your integraty as an editor. As far as I'm concerned, your edit are disruptive. Sarujo (talk) 05:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

See WP:NPA, and ok, you claim that Speed Buyuden compilation doesn't exist, right? ----Necro Butcher (Peace Be Upon Him) (talk) 05:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

It's not a personal attack when you are are pointing out a spade. Also, Speed Buyuden may excist, but to hear about it from you after you lied about other information, only brings caution from other editors. I'm not going take anything you add at face value. Sorry. Sarujo (talk) 06:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, now you call me a liar. It's a big deal. Which information is my lie?. ----Necro Butcher (Peace Be Upon Him) (talk) 06:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

"And by the way, Ms. Yuriko Mori was not involved with the albums at all, so her name is not credited on the albums". This is an obvious false claim on your part, as record labels are required by international law credit writers to their material. Sarujo (talk) 06:54, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

No no no, she was not involved with the albums at all, so her name doesn't appear on the albums at all. However you claimed that the primary source is better and correct, and I believed you, so I added her name to the publish information form of Buyuden. I have Buyuden and its booklet, and I can still not see her name anywhere on the booklet. That is why I said "take care" (i.e. "fix it") - you mean Yukinojo Mori, right? ----Necro Butcher (Peace Be Upon Him) (talk) 07:54, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe so. On some translation I get Yukinojo, others I get Yuriko. Strange. Sarujo (talk) 09:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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へっちゃら

Isn't the actual spelling へっちゃら ? --Backinstadiums (talk) 21:58, 27 March 2020 (UTC)