Talk:Central Board of Film Certification

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I didn't add the tag in the Critical Analysis section, but it really is a mess. Needs cleanup, expansion and wikification. Considering the importance of the article, I have added it to the to-do list of Indian cinema task force--Anoopkn (talk) 12:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

inclusion of historical list of chairs

Added list of chairpersons & various loactions of the Board. List needed to see who precedded or successed whom. Also added citations Animeshkulkarni (talk) 08:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

my instinct is to include this (if properly sourced). the number of notable people who have held the position helps give context to the (currently missing) content of the historical actions of the organization. Active Banana (^bananaphone 14:57, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

The list is sourced from the official site of CBFC. Chronology of recent chair-holders is also verified from other websites. Info abt past ppl is yet not available. One doubt- if found, should the historical changes (controversial or non-controversial, moral or immoral) be included? Animeshkulkarni (talk) 16:56, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

The article should include something about the creation of the organization, major decisions that have impacted the content/production of films, professional reactions and comments (positive and negative) about the impact etc. particular decisions that later inspired actual legislation, major changes in policies or their application, when its decisions have inspired or contradicted other countries' rating boards... Whatever might be covered in reliable sources (other than specific decisions regarding a single film that did not have wider impact) Active Banana (^bananaphone 18:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

accuracy

This isn't accurate as to what makes up the ratings on the censor board. Films in India are almost never shown to contain any nudity and there are increasingly stringent measures regarding other things depicted in Indian theatres.In fact, the Censor board in India has always been conservative.47.20.236.125 (talk) 04:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Inclusion of section about recent criticism?

I suggest that the recent criticisms against the CBFC be included in ths article as a separate section.

Ramakrishnan.nikhil (talk) 09:40, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

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Nudity topic on Central Board of Film Certification

@VishvaGuru1 keeps adding his WP:SYNTH about CBFC not allowing nudity. Please check and help in consensus. --Venkat TL (talk) 12:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

VishvaGuru1, Individual instances and anecdotes dont make a rule. Please provide a reliable source for such tall claims Venkat TL (talk) 11:56, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

I have given in my edit source as a 4 to 5 top news publications in the world about Nudity in CBFC. Venkat TL! as you are reverting again and again my edits then why not you give a source that " Nudity are allowed by CBFC" ?. Recently, which news article I given as a source, you can clearly read that " A Rated movie also don't give Guarantee even for Partial Nudity". And many news has been reported by serval media publications that many movies scenes has been cut the nude scenes or blur the naked scenes, and some even banned the whole movie despite the removal of Nudity. And if CBFC doesn't have any rules about nudity, then why this articles saying that cbfc remove or banned the movie, and who give the power to CBFC that he could Cut the nude scenes. Without any Rules ? In the last, I would say that before reverting my edit give me a source, there Nudity are allowed by CBFC. You are a experienced Wikipidians but yet your behaviour like not justifiable.

VishvaGuru1 (talk) 08:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@VishvaGuru1 Since we are discussing this dispute, the article should not be edited until this dispute is settled. Your edit was reverted as you made it without generating consensus for those edits. You are adding the content that CBFC does not allow nudity. None of the articles you are adding say that. (Please provide quotes, if you think I am wrong). I am not adding anything new, you are adding new content that is not backed reliably. Please self revert and find source to support your edits before making them. Look I understand that what you are saying happens with CBFC, but unless you have a reliable source stating just that, we cannot add it into the article. I am not saying that you are wrong, I am saying that you need better source that clearly says what you are trying to include into the article. Venkat TL (talk) 08:24, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand but...VishvaGuru1 (talk) 08:30, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

In every Sources, which I add in this Central Board of Film Certification article, every sources are clearly saying like that CBFC cut Nudity or Remove nude scenes or blur naked scenes even with adult rated certificate or Sometimes Banned the movie. But if I adding that " these(A rated certified) movies doesn't contains the Nudity" Then You are saying, No! What are you adding doesn't match given by your sources. Then I said only " Nudity are Not Allowed " But yet You are saying, No! What are you adding doesn't match given by your sources. Then what line I use to describe that... CBFC cut nude scenes even in his "A Certified" Movies. VishvaGuru1 (talk) 08:39, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

VishvaGuru1 Please provide the relevant QUOTEs from those sources that support the content that you are adding. After providing quote, also give your proposed content that you want to add. We will discuss after you provide the quote and your preferred content. Venkat TL (talk) 09:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok VishvaGuru1 (talk) 09:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@VishvaGuru1 You can use Template:Cquote to provide quote. Venkat TL (talk) 09:33, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

• First quotes from the “Thenewsminute.com“ - when the film once again came before the regional censor board for its approval, the latter insisted that all ‘nude’ shots be taken off, failing which the movie would not be issued a certificate.
• ' Second quotes from the livemint.com' - Indian censors have become far more relaxed about kissing and lovemaking in the movies in recent years, but complete nudity remains verboten. An adults-only certificate does not even guarantee partial nudity.
• ' Third quotes from the guardian.com' - Indian censors have banned blockbuster erotic romance Fifty Shades of Grey from cinemas despite producers having removed all scenes of nudity, reports Reuters.
• ' fourth quotes from thenewsminute' - According to the report, the Censor Board had issues with the nudity and love making scenes between the two women in the movie.
• 'fifth quotes from dnaindia.com' - Denis Villeneuve’s sci-fi thriller featuring Harrison Ford and Ryan Gosling has got the slasher treatment from the Central Board Of Film Certification (CBFC). All the nude shots, frontal and back, were asked to be cut before the film was given an ‘A’ certificate.
• 'Sixth quotes from firstspot' - The Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC), under the chairmanship of Prasoon Joshi, has banned a film titled X Zone. As per a report by The Asian Age, the film has graphic nudity, including a frontal shot of actress Hrishitaa Bhatt.
• 'Seventh quotes from india.com' - The sci-fi movie with 'A' certification was slashed from all nude shots, both frontal and back. The Sanskari CBFC members have allowed the movie to have four-letter swear words like 'f**k' and 'f**ker', but the nude scenes of the artificially intelligent robots have been chopped off. In addition to this, the movie has also been asked to blur all alcohol bottles.VishvaGuru1 (talk) 09:43, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@VishvaGuru1 Thank you for quotes. Please add below, your proposed line that you want to include into the article on the basis of these above sources. Venkat TL (talk) 09:51, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

'My preferred content', which I want to add is "CBFC removed all nude scenes and any form of Nudity, even in his Adult certificate Rated movie, before giving him certificate."VishvaGuru1 (talk) 09:52, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Or in Short form, I want to add just 'Nudity are not allowed' VishvaGuru1 (talk) 09:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Just like that - 'words which insult or degrade women or any social group are not allowed'. VishvaGuru1 (talk) 10:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@VishvaGuru1 thank you. In this edit you have added the words "Nudity is not allowed" into the article in the middle of the sentence "These films can contain brutally strong violence, strong sexual scenes, strong abusive language (but words which insult or degrade women or any social group are not allowed), and even some controversial and adult themes considered unsuitable for young viewers.. Look Nudity has nothing to do with strong abusive language, so it should not be pushed in between stuff about abusive language. Better to start a new line. Also I dont agree that Nudity is not allowed. Some form of nudity is allowed and the film is given A certificate and released. Parched movie for example. Please read the article, Nudity and Indian Cinema: Titillation or Political Statement

In the quotes you shared above, there are cases where Censor has cut scenes of complete nudity. Can we use them to claim "Nudity is not allowed by CBFC". I doubt. Anyway please read the article and then reply. Venkat TL (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Yaa, Adding to ' Nudity are not allowed' middle of sentence of abusive language doesn't right, I understand! First of all I would say that, when political climate has change over the years then it will definitely impact on the Film industry and primarily CBFC. You can't say that if anything happen in 6 years ago then it also can be happen Now. May be, but not Surely we say! Just like, in 80s, 90s malayalam cinema produced many of Soft porn movies and some reports also claim that in there Television have also mid night erotica Shows, but over the years guidelines has changed and Now there are No Erotica in Television and No mallu movie with Nudity. And This Topic where are you disagree to "nudity are not allowed" and think that some form of nudity are allowed. And you giving an example of Parched movie. 'here I would want to quote Times of India about Parched movie' - Talking about going nude on screen for Leena Yadav's 'Parched' (2015 at Toronto Festival and 2016 in India), Radhika Apte, who is one of the finest actors. I have said to you in my past reply that CBFC doesn't allow Nudity for theatrical releases but yes you can releases on any cinema festival or overseas countries. And which you quoted the article , he mention some movie like Gandu (film) and Cosmic Sex. But truth is that's movie also has been banned from CBFC. And Some media report says that Even in OTT PLATFORM, you can made shows with nudity on Over-the-top media service before, When India Government [1] Introduce Intermediate Guidelines for Social media and digital Ethics code 2021.[2] And many ott platform has been Shut down because of the Soft-pornographic Content( which are showing Nudity. But this reply is Not about the OTT, it was an example, things and Rules can be change over the years.

VishvaGuru1 (talk) 11:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Nudity debate in Cinema of India isn't New, but crux about the debate is that, what happened now or recent years! And answer is "CBFC Started to removed nudity from the movies", which is releasing in India, doesn't matter its Indian movies or any others countries movies. If they have Nudity, it will be cut by CBFCVishvaGuru1 (talk) 11:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)