Talk:Carl Wimmer

Copyright problem removed

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51140664-76/babka-hillyard-rolly-wimmer.html.csp and http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-11854-carl-wimmer-mike-winder-gun-nuts.html. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 20:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Conflict of interests

Something is going on with this page. I've noticed users removing valid content from this page. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't valid content. Items sited are from legitimate news sources and other verifiable websites. Then they site things like vandalism or copyright protection in their edit summaries. I'm restoring the page back to where the cited material was removed and left only links. --Truconservative (talk) 20:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Discussion is exactly that - not you post a comment here and replace content that is disputed, please allow a few days for discussion and for users to evaluate this content. - I see you are now blocked, you should have taken some time to discuss, there are editors here more than willing to assess this and work it out. Personally I would love to see this article expanded and well cited a bit but the large recent additions had multiple policy issues and imo served to create an attack article. Perhaps take one issue at a time and seek support for the addition here. Off2riorob (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Truconservative, some of the material was still in violation as it was lifted unedited directly from http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51140664-76/babka-hillyard-rolly-wimmer.html.csp. When your block is lifted, please discuss with other editors what material should be included and how it should be worded. Thank you. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 21:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Material added by User:Truconservative, Dec. 20, 2011

I'm going to revert this again. This long addition is investigative journalism, not encyclopedia writing. Per WP:BLP, negative info must be well-sourced, and preferably to a third-party source. This helps avoid WP:UNDUE coverage. Personal blogs are out. This material must be revised before it is re-added. Thank you, The Interior (Talk) 00:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. As is, I can't think of any reason Koebler stuff should be in there per your reasoning and WP:BLP. The pay-per-speech paragraph could stay in, but would have to be re-worded to avoid WP:POV issues. Bgwhite (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Disagree. Koerber stuff has been well documented with a source quote from KSL, the most important news organization in the state of Utah. Truconservative has gone above and beyond his duty to for editing. It looks like The Interior and Bgwhite are on the Wimmer payroll and should review WP:AVOIDCOI

Tone

I removed Template:Tone as there were no specific concerns shared here at Talk, and I didn't readily see any issues myself. Please feel free to reinstate IF you also elaborate here at Talk, thanks.--→gab 24dot grab← 17:29, 3 May 2012 (UTC)