Talk:Capocannoniere

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Assignment of Juventus to 1903 and 1904 seasons

Hello,

I am just wondering what evidence is available to assign the Capocannoniere to an unknown Juventus player in the 1903 and 1904 seasons.

It is likely that a Juventus player was the top goal scorer, however, there were multiple goals scored by other teams. There is no evidence to suggest the goals weren't split among different players, in particular the 1904 season where Juventus only scored 7 goals for the entire campaign, which isn't even a full starting 11.

Are there any partial records of the campaign, that is of a particular match that take a certain player scored more goals than all the other clubs' entire campaigns so that you can at least rule out that a member of another club could have mathematically been the top goalscorer? Maranello10 (talk) 00:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello,

We know for sure that there were Juventus's capocannonieri in the 1903 and 1904 seasons because:

• In the 1903 Championship only 2 goals weren't scored by Juventus, 1 by Audace Torino and 1 by Andrea Doria, while at least two Juventus's players (Malvano and Ferraris I) scored 2 or more goals.

• In the 1904 Championship Juventus scored 7 goals, Milan and Torinese 2, Genoa 1, Andrea Doria 0. Juventus's Walter Streule scored 2 or more goals, while Milan's players Herbert Kilpin and Umberto Scotti scored 1 goal each and Torinese's scorers are unknown, so at least a Juventus player (probably Streule) was capocannoniere with at least 2 goals (maybe even a Torinese's player scored 2 goals, but we don't know for sure). --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 10:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@L'Eremita: Thanks for your reply and providing the information. I understand the logic for the 1904 championship, however, in the 1903 championship Genoa scored three goals in the final. Why are only Audace Torino's and Andrea Doria's goals considered? One of the Juventus players would have had to score at least three goals to be considered the capocannoniere. Maranello10 (talk) 03:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Maranello10: I forgot to mention the goals scored by Genoa in the 1903 final: 1 scored by Dapples, 1 scored by Agar, 1 was a Juventus's own goal. Therefore, no Genoa's players scored more than 1 goal. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 10:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)