Talk:Capital punishment in Indonesia

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The "Statutory Provisions" section says that "only a handful" of crimes can be punished with death in Indonesia, then states the precise number is 3. It then proceeds to cite each specific criminal law article that can lead to a death sentence, listing 16 different articles. This is quite obviously contradictory. It's probably a good idea to clarify what the precise number really is.

Also, considering that the majority of countries in the world do not use the capital punishment at all, and that as far as I know most countries that do use it to punish murder only, there's no possible doubt that Indonesia in punishing more crimes than average with death. "A handful" is an expression used to signify a small number of something. In this context, the number involved is surely higher than average, therefore there's no way "a handful" can be an adequate term here. If the correct number actually is 16, I have very seldom seen someone use the word "handful" in order to refer to 16 of something. I realize this is somewhat subjective, crimes are abstract concepts that can't fit into someone's hand, the word is being used metaphorically here, so perhaps the best solution is to figure out the exact number of crimes, after all.

Also, reading the criminal law articles contradicts the statement that just "murder, drugs and terrorism" are punished with death. Attempted murder or attempted hijack of the president are punished with death. Treason - aiding enemies during wars - is punished with death, as is corruption in certain cases. Basically the opening lines from this section are completely contradictory with the rest of its content. 177.32.60.149 (talk) 16:02, 16 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

NPOV: The article talks about "languishing in prison." That's a very loaded word meant to evoke emotion rather than actual debate and reflection I think the article should be rewritten with a more neutral tone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.199.82 (talk) 13:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. I was about to make the same comment, but you'd already done so. I've been reading up on the Bali 9, and some of them embraced religion and taught classes, so they do not universally 'languish'. Vince (talk) 10:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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