Talk:Newscoop

COI

I removed the deletion and conflict of interest notices. I will try to find some links to establish notability. As for conflict of interest, my company is working with Sourcefabric, but I am not a Campsite developer. The article is neutral in tone, it even mentions a security hole.

You wrote the whole article, and are in someway affiliated with the product therefore the COI tag needs to be on the page. At the moment the articles based entirely on first party websites. Here are three sources which might be of use to rewrite the article, in general, if something isn't included in these, it shouldn't be in the article: [1] [2] [3] I'm not entirely sure whether these are reliable enough source to use but if there's any chance of the article staying, it needs to be based on something like this. Let me know if you've got any questions. Smartse (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Smartse, the articles you mention are mostly about Campcaster, rather than Campsite. I'll try to get some links to independent viewpoints added to the page. It would be even better if people not affiliated to Sourcefabric did this, but if the page gets deleted then they won't get the chance. Danieljames (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

If there are no articles about campsite, then we shouldn't have an article on it. Smartse (talk) 10:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

From your personal page, I see that you regard posts by employees about products they work on as spam. Clearly, you don't want PR on Wikipedia, but I'd suggest that people who work on the software are well qualified to describe it objectively. In this case, most of the users of Campsite do not speak or write English (see the example news site links I just added), so they are unlikely to start pages on the English version of Wikipedia about it. That doesn't mean the software is not of potential interest to English speakers. Cheers! Danieljames (talk) 10:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I regard it as spam, because people with a COI tend to edit wikipedia either partly or solely to promote whatever they are affiliated to. As you say yourself "That doesn't mean the software is not of potential interest to English speakers" which suggests to me you are essentially trying to promote the software. If the company is notable, it is possible in some cases for employees to write neutral articles, so long as they only use material from good sources. In the case of less notable topics, this is much more difficult as you have personal knowledge of the product and as demonstrated it is hard not to include this. We don't have a specific guideline on notability for software, but WP:CORP and WP:WEB are close enough - the links you've added still don't show that the software is sufficiently notable to be included here. Subjects need to be discussed in multiple, reliable sources (such as the BBC, NYT etc.) to merit an article and as far as I can tell this is not the case for this software. Smartse (talk) 10:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

There are articles on Campsite, including http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/campsite-refresh-for-professional-oss-publishing-platform/ and http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/137682 which will get added to the page. I only said that the articles you suggested were not really about Campsite. Cheers! Danieljames (talk) 12:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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