Talk:Bremen Cathedral

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was proposal withdrawn. JPG-GR (talk) 06:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

As near as I can tell, the Wikipedia naming conventions suggest that this article should be at St. Peter's Cathedral, Bremen, so that the article's title and the name given in the lead agree. Anyone else support a move? Deor (talk) 15:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the page should be moved, but don't know how to do it. Thanks for the suggestion. Giljuna (talk) 20:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's not hard to move the article to a new title, but I've been having second thoughts about what that title should be. If this is a Lutheran church, it can't be a cathedral (can it?), since a cathedral is the seat of a bishop, and there are no Lutheran bishops. In German it's called St. Petri Dom or Bremer Dom, but I don't know what the best English translation of dom is when it's used of a church other than a cathedral. Any ideas? Deor (talk) 21:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I did a little more research. Some Lutherans do have bishops, but St Peter's isn't the seat of a bishop today. The church functions more like a famous parish church. But the building is the historic cathedral="dom" and to call it anything else would, in my opinion, be a mistake. I think the article should be moved using the conventions you mentioned. Thanks Giljuna (talk) 05:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've put up a notice at WP:Requested moves so that anyone who objects will have a chance to come here and make their case. If no one objects, I'll move the page in a week or so. Deor (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't see a good reason to move the article. The current title is where people will expect to find it (including people who don't know the patron saint) and is short and nicely unambiguous. It also matches our naming conventions used at Cologne Cathedral and Mainz Cathedral and Worms Cathedral. Kusma (talk) 12:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not familiar enough with the conventions to know which ones to use. Giljuna (talk) 20:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it appears that I was too hasty. For one thing, I didn't notice that the links to Cathedral of St Peter, Regensburg, Cathedral of St. Peter at Schleswig, and Cathedral of St. Peter, Worms on the St. Peter's Cathedral dab page in fact lead to the articles Regensburg Cathedral, Schleswig Cathedral, and Worms Cathedral. I hereby advise whoever deals with my move proposal to leave things as they are. I do think, however, that the first sentence of this article should be changed to something like "Bremen Cathedral (German: Bremer Dom or Dom St. Petri zu Bremen), dedicated to St. Peter, is a Lutheran church situated in the market square in the center of Bremen, in northern Germany" in accordance with the principle that the boldfaced term with which an article begins should match the article's name. Deor (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Bremen tradition re: cathedral

I've read the notification on the discussion page regarding not adding to it, and the direction to put additional comments onto the 'Talk' page -- I hope I'm doing this right. If not, feel free to move this where it belongs.

The article mentions the local tradition of single men having reached the age of thirty being required to sweep the steps of the cathedral, it does not mention the allied tradition that women who have reached the age of thirty being required to polish the doorknobs of the cathedral, and also being released by a kiss from an unmarried man. This traditional celebration takes place on their birthday, and all of the guests are present to help celebrate this rite of passage. If one is mentioned, it would make sense to mention the other one, as well. Official site of the city of Bremen, in German Catwoman07076 (talk) 13:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

A better photograph

Hi guys, The present images of the cathedral are very poor, when compared with Wikipedia and Commons standards. I live very far away from Bremen but there should be some skilled photographer among our wiki community living nearby! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 12:16, 15 November 2015 (UTC)