Talk:Braver Angels

Changed from what?

Why not say "Better Angels"? An article should anticipate questions, not raise them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.103.143.236 (talk) 13:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. The original name seems to have gotten lost from the renaming paragraph when this article was split off from Institute for American Values. — M.boli (talk) 15:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Expansion underway

I'm working on expanding this article through a course in WikiEdu for scholars. I've gathered about a dozen academic articles and book chapters. Let me know if you are also interested in working on this article. ProfGray (talk) 09:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 01:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that a co-founder of Braver Angels designed their Red/Blue political depolarization workshops based on couples therapy?

• Source: Doherty, William J., and Tai J. Mendenhall. "Braver Angels: Counteracting political polarization." In W. J. Doherty & T. J. Mendenhall, Becoming a citizen therapist: Integrating community problem-solving into your work as a healer (pp. 93–111). American Psychological Association. https://doi-org.proxy.lib.miamioh.edu/10.1037/0000378-008

• ALT1: ... that conservative and liberal participants in Braver Angels Red/Blue depolarization workshops understand each other better if they share political views with their own group first? Source: Oliver-Blackburn, Bailey M., and April Chatham-Carpenter. "‘But I don’t know if I want to talk to you’: strategies to foster conversational receptiveness across the United States’ political divide." Journal of Applied Communication Research 51, no. 1 (2023): 55-71.
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• Comment: June 27-29 is their national convention, so that'd be great timing for a DYK. I'm part of a WikiEdu course on 2024 US elections and I will continue improving this article over the coming week(s). I'd especially welcome advice on the ordering and naming of sections. I'm in touch with the organization and hope to get some images for Wiki Commons and the article.

5x expanded by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 00:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC).

• @ProfGray: QPQ not needed. Article is long enough and recently expanded. Article is copyvio-free. ALT0 is interesting and well-sourced; I fell that ALT1 is too general. The article has one issue: there is a paragraph that lacks citations, which I tagged. Once that is fixed, the hook can be approved. Kimikel (talk) 01:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Kimikel:, for working on this DYK. I fixed the citation and removed the tag. (The ref was actually the same as the previous sentence, must have gotten moved around during revisions, thanks for catching that.) Please let me know if any other concerns. ProfGray (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Approving ALT0. Thank you for your nomination ProfGray - Kimikel (talk) 01:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Significant error in Lincoln quotation

The discussion of the 2023 convention quotes Lincoln on "better angels", saying that the "better angels" reference occurs in the Gettysburg Address. This is wrong; the "better angels" quotation is from Lincoln's first inaugural address. Someone should certainly fix this. The convention may well have been held in Gettysburg because of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, but someone should verify that. There is also a question whether organization leaders were themselves confused about the source of the "better angels" quotation. In any case, the Gettysburg convention location needs to be separated from the "better angels" source, perhaps leaving only the common tie to Lincoln. I don't have the resources or time to investigate this and fix it properly. Jubilationtcornpone (talk) 03:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Moved the "better angels" quote from 2023 convention section to the Founding section, where the quote had been correctly attributed. The error was in Wikipedia editing. Your surmise that the common tie is "Lincoln" was right, as described in the news article. Thank you for catching this. -- M.boli (talk) 09:13, 21 September 2024 (UTC)