Talk:Black project

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 129.137.96.11 in topic Can you add the b-21 to the list?

Stealth Blimp

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Why does no page of the Stealthe Blimp exist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.206.32 (talk) 04:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Also, it seems as if this should be removed from this article altogether and should either be formed as its own page or perhaps included in the UFO section as the citations are speclative at best and are from sources that appear somewhat dubious. Furthermore, if this is a hypothetical black list project which by its very nature would be speculative but these articles stretch back to the 1980s. If there is nothing more recent or perhaps more compelling than that than perhaps this should be removed.

Why no mention of funding/publication use?

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A Black Project or Black Program is also a military/gov't project where the researchers, as per the RFP(s), cannot publish externally (e.g., refereed research in their field) anything about the project. That is a really common usage, and it is totally missing here. There's nothing secretive about it -- it is told to the researchers up front when they ask for money to work on the project. So why no mention -- too mundane?  ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.170.29.114 (talk) 18:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

We don't have an article called "Black project"

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It's a joke, the statement we don't have an article called "black project"...  :)



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Would someone (say, the person who placed this flag) please elaborate on why it is necessary for an article that basically explains that 'black project' is the term used in the USA to describe classified research projects that are not officially listed in the federal budget to have a worldwide view of the subject?

Fleecing of America

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Shouldn't the "$50 hammers and $500 toilet seats" scandals of the 1990s fit into here? I'd Be Bold, but I don't have the source citations off-hand. 71.246.25.200 06:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Oh that happens every decade, but the difference is that they don't necessarily hide it completely, they just put it where people don't really notice it. The attraction of black projects to conspiracy theorists is that because they're black projects, an absence of evidence that they exist is also (to the conspiracy theorist) proof that they exist, because that's one of the distinguishing features of a black project.
It's interesting to note, however, that one need not be a conspiracy theorist to know that absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence - after all, Al Capone was brought down on a charge that basically equates to aggravated tax evasion. Orethrius (talk) 10:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Project ARCELIC2?

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I can't find any other information on this supposed project, and it looks suspiciously like "Arse-Lick." I'm not deleting this, but if someone knows this is just a joke and not an actual project, I would suggest it.

(Tha Pyngwyn 19:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC))Reply


Even if 'ARCELIC2' is a real project, the only hits google turned up were from wikipedia and answers.com (which reprints wikipedia's entry)... which would make it original research.

IMO, it's very likely to be a bad joke. I've also noticed someone's been adding 'penis' to some of the video game entries... methinks this is going to be a bad summer for vandalism.

Fictional Proof

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How can a non-existent project be used as an example of alternate funding?

The point is to illistrate that the funding did not come through government channels, but from agents operating outside of their governments. That the project may not have existed is in this case non-notable, as this is the best example to show evidenceof such covert funding. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
Regarding this supposed alternate source of funding, the Montauk Project page makes references to a lot of conspiracy theories but not one to Nazi gold. Shouldn't either the Montauk Project link from this article be removed or the reference to Nazi gold be added to the linked article? Strategia 20:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Area 58

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i included Area 58 as a classified project given the NRO classification guide. Dogue (talk) 17:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Stealth Black Hawk

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It ought to be included on this list, but I'm unsure where it would fit. It isn't hasn't been declassified (and shouldn't be, but that's just my irrelevant opinion), but neither is it "rumored" because the remains of the aircraft left behind at UBL's compound in Pakistan prove that it exists at least in prototype form. I would add it under a "Classified, but publicly known" heading, but that doesn't really make sense. Maybe "Confirmed classified black projects"? Spartan198 (talk) 05:38, 17 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can you add the b-21 to the list?

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It was recently announced. It was highly rumored for a year or two and was only officially announced after that. 129.137.96.11 (talk) 14:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)Reply