Talk:Bisakol languages

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According to the article, Languages of the Philippines, which is largely derived from information in Ethnologue, all these languages are in the Central division of the Bisayan (Visayan) group of languages, but Masbatenyo is in the Peripheral sub-division and Masbate Sorsogon and Waray Sorsogon are in the Warayan sub-division. This term, Bisakol or Bisacol, is being used for all three of these Visayan languages on the basis that they are all strongly influenced by Bikol. This may be a valid descriptive term, but it is not meaningful in terms of them having a common origin. From the table:

Bisayan
  Central 
     Peripheral 
        Ati 
        Capiznon 
        Hiligaynon(Ilonggo) 
        Masbatenyo language 
        Porohanon 
     Romblon 
        Romblomanon 
     Warayan 
        Sorsogon, Masbate 
        Gubat 
           Sorsogon, Waray 
        Samar-Waray 
           Waray-Waray

Mikenassau 20:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Disputed

I am not aware that the "Bisakol languages" are treated as a subgroup of the Visayan or Bikol languages in any reliable source. And even if it is just a conventient cover term for the three Visayan lects spoken in the Bikol area, I doubt that the term "Bisakol" originates from a reliable source. A web search eventually brings us back to WP. –Austronesier (talk) 08:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC) (@Uanfala: here's another one.)

Can you clarify about the classification of Sorsoganon?

because based on the article, Sorsoganon has two languages ​​but in what it has three (Northern, Central and Southern) but in other parts of the article its only Northern and Sothern Sorsoganon Shimin_Ufesoj (🦜) 15:49, 16 March 2023 (UTC)