Talk:Battle of Tory Island
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Good Article review
editThis is a very well written and informative article. I just have an issue with a couple of citations before I pass the the Good Article nomination.
- The first paragraph in the Background section is sourced to page 25 of Pakenham's The Year of Liberty. However, that page does not have the information cited. As far as I know (my knowledge is very limited!), the information in this paragraph is correct, but it needs a different citation.
- Pakenham says that Ireland was "only half digested - part colony, part nation, a source of more weakness than wealth for church and crown and a prey to each sucessive enemy of Britain" Further down the page he says that Ireland was "still predominantly Catholic, still poor and still burning with hatred for her English oppressors". I think these do source the inline citations in the article, but I will looking for more sources on this. Unfortunately my main area of knowledge is naval history, not political and I don't seem to have anything else to hand. I will keep looking however.
- In the Invasion attempts section, the sentence The expedition was a total disaster for the French fleet, with 13 ships lost and over 2,000 men drowned. is sourced to page 19 of Pakenham's The Year of Liberty (the last page of the prologue). However, that page does not include the numbers of ships or men lost. Can you use a different source here?
I will put the GA nomination on hold for seven days so you can address these issues. Please let me know if I can clarify anything. Bláthnaid 20:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- I can and have provided another source here.
Thankyou for your review, let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions for additional sources for the first paragraph. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 10:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- I found a source on Google Books that together with Pakenham's book might be enough to source the first paragraph: The British Armed Nation, 1793-1815 by J.E. Cookson, page 52-54 [1] Bláthnaid 17:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Great, I'll pass the GA nomination. Congratulations! Bláthnaid 14:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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Copyedit
editOkay, sleeves up and let's get to it ;) Comments/questions etc below as usual. EyeSerenetalk 13:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Background
edit- Can we use 'her' to refer to Britain? Not sure what current practice is here.
- Neither am I, I'll have a look.
- I think it would help to state what the French Revolutionary principles were, since Tone was fighting for them.
- Do we have a date (even a rough one) for when the group was formed?
Countess's pursuit
edit- I assume this was a British convoy that Bompart (nearly) ran into?
- yes
Battle of Tory Island
edit- I've used {{convert}} for the distances, but thought I ought to check whether they are in nautical miles or not?
Melampus and Résolue
edit- This reads as though Melampus spent the entire day of the 13th searching the bay, and only ran across the French at midnight. Is this correct?
- Hmmm, according to the sources yes (it is a big bay and visibility was very low becauase of the heavy weather).
Aftermath
edit- "Savary's return to port marked the end of the last attempt by a continental nation to land troops in Ireland." Is this accurate - I thought the Germans tried it recently?
Legrand or Legrande?
editBoth spellings are used at Battle of Tory Island#Fisgard and Immortalité. I suppose we should be consistent, even if the notion of official spelling didn't really apply at the time. Art LaPella (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- Art LaPella (talk) 00:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)Resolved
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editThanks to everyon who contributed sensibly and reverted vandalism during this article's time on the main page. Your efforts were much appreciated.--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)