Talk:Australian Light Horse

Latest comment: 2 years ago by MBG02 in topic What is Light?

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I see that there is a redirect here from Light Horse (H cap'ed). Should it be the other way around?, this article spells it with a cap H. or maybe it should be lower cased in the article. I think it should at least be consistent. --68.198.246.166 01:41, 26 September 2005 (UTC) I agree this should be capitalised--A Y Arktos 00:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC) Perhaps this article would be better as the Australian Light Horse or expanded to provide references to Light Cavalry and to other forces known as Light Horse e.g. Natal Light Horse, Light Horse Regiment, Cape Frontier Light Horse, or operating in the same manner e.g. Dragoon -- Medains 06:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


The photo of the troopers in this article, captioned 'The Australian Light Horse in Palestine during World War I' is actually a photo of Trooper William Harry Rankin WOODS, 1st Light Horse Regiment, AIF. Trooper Woods died of wounds at Gallipoli on 15th May 1915. As this was before the Light Horse served in Palestine, the caption seems to be in need of revision. The exact same photo can be found in the Sydney Mail of 2 June 1915 p14, and in Volume XII (Photographic record of the war) of the Official History of Australia in the War 1914-1918, edited by Dr C. E. W. Bean, the Australian official historian of World War 1. Here it is captioned, "Men of the original Light Horse of the A.I.F. before departure." Sorry, please disregard. The larger version is correctly captioned. I should have checked first, although I still feel the caption to the photo actually on the page is misleading. Hayaman (talk) 06:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

The 15 Australian light horse regiments that served in the First World War were raised between 1914 and 1918 and were disbanded in 1919. The 30 or so part time Citizen Military Force, reserve or militia regiments originally formed in 1903 were all disbanded during the Second World War or shortly after. In 1947, the present day regiments were raised. The present day regiments carry the battle honours awarded to regiments in both world wars. The 4/19th Prince of Wales Light Horse also carries battle honours for Vietnam. --Anthony Staunton (talk) 13:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

File:Australian camps on slopes of Olivet & Mount Scopus3.jpg to appear as POTD soon edit

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Australian camps on slopes of Olivet & Mount Scopus3.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on September 10, 2011. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2011-09-10. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng {chat} 15:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

An Australian Light Horse encampment on Mount Olivet and Mount Scopus near Jerusalem, 1918. Australian Light Horse were mounted troops with characteristics of both cavalry and mounted infantry who served during the Second Boer War and World War I. A number of Australian light horse units are still in existence today, most notably of the 2nd/14th Light Horse Regiment (Queensland Mounted Infantry), now a light armoured unit.Photo: American Colony; Restoration: Lise Broer


History edit

In this section the following appears (note the use of the double and single quote marks)—

  • "Specially Sighted Telescopic Rifles will be issued, stated in Routine Order No. 112 by Major G.M.M.Onslow, 7th Light Horse A.I.F., dated 2nd October, 1915. In this, is the extract from Operation Memo. 73 where the specially sighted telescopic rifle issued at the rate of four to each Brigade of the Division, 'for use at sniping posts by SPECIALLY SELECTED MARKSMEN ONLY' (ref: AWM4-10-12-4.pdf page 9).

I can see where the single quotes delineate the text, but the opening double quote is not transparent. Can this be corrected or should I just assume and close the quote before the first comma?

The other issue is the grammar of this section— "In this, is the extract from Operation Memo. 73" where the comma is confusing and the stop after "Memo" confusion to the modern reader. And it is about the way we read stuff these days, is it not?

I will make the indicative grammar enhancements at the end of October 2012 if none object. Lin (talk) 22:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject Equine edit

Thanks for that, Montanabw. I did go to the WikiProject equine page, before deciding to change the equine level to 'Mid,' as it appeared to more accurately reflect the importance of this article, following the criteria I found there. This article is widely interesting to readers interested in the horse family and ww1. Could you please change it back? --Rskp (talk) 05:01, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Nope. Sorry. This article may well be of higher importance in military history than to equine history. Horses in World War I is of "mid" importance, (As is Horses in WWII) this is a spinoff article also about one group of WWI horses, from one geographical region. This article is analogous to Horses in the Napoleonic Wars, which is also ranked "low" importance. We are generally very hesitant to rank many things mid or higher, as while they may have high importance to a specific subset (if we had a horses in military history wikiproject, for example, but we don't), but in the general theme of the 3000+ articles tagged for WPEQ, this doesn't cut it. That said, if you want to discuss at the talk page of WikiProject Equine and a different consensus is reached, I would be fine about having a very civil discussion of the matter, but this would mean raising the various specific warfare articles from "mid" to "high" and then we'd have to raise Horses in Warfare from "high" to "top," thus creating an inflationary spiral, which is my concern. Montanabw(talk) 17:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit warring over ANZAC vs Anzac edit

Is it really that important?

It's obvious that both forms are in common use today.

So who cares? HiLo48 (talk) 10:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia MOS Capital letters. --Rskp (talk) 01:52, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Could you be more cryptic? HiLo48 (talk) 02:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

status quo ante bellum edit

Regarding the Australian Light Horse where you changed the Anzac Mounted Division. As it was first mentioned in that fashion, I think its been agreed that as both styles are fairly equally correct, that the original style would be kept. --Rskp (talk) 06:35, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Gday - re the ANZAC / Anzac issue like AR I'm not particularly wedded to either (and there are definitely arguments in favor of the latter I agree). Currently the consensus at Talk: ANZAC Mounted Division is against moving that article so think it would be wise to just try and forget about the issue in the interests of your own sanity. Reason for the revert is that it seemed to be part of the previous pattern of editing plus the fact that your edit changed the wikilink to a name other than that used by the article. I am quite happy with either being adopted as long as its consistent within the article, doesn't break any wikilinks, and is true to the original style adopted by the article (i.e. we don't go and make changes to the format in any article as it currently stands) unless community consensus changes. Anotherclown (talk) 09:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for that Anotherclown. Will you be changing the article back, to reflect its original style? --Rskp (talk) 22:56, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hello again. I'm not sure I see any benefit in doing that. For better or worse the article as it stands now reflects the current consensus on the name of the division, so changing back to the opposite would now seem contrary to that. Equally, whilst my opinion is that the terms are interchangeable, given the current consensus others may not agree with me. I do think it would be best to let sleeping dogs lie and try and adopt a status quo ante bellum approach by leaving everything the way it is and moving on to more important things. Anotherclown (talk) 02:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi, thanks for that. However, in order to follow the status quo ante bellum approach, you would need to change the name of the division back, to its original state. Could you please see your way to doing that? --Rskp (talk) 03:30, 3 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Quoting from my post above "...For better or worse the article as it stands now reflects the current consensus on the name of the division, so changing back to the opposite would now seem contrary to that." Long story short - no. Really don't see how this is an issue and suggest making any changes in this area is pointless and just likely to result in the resumption of hostilities. I for one do not intend to. That is all I'm going to say on this issue. Happy to discuss something else if you like though. Anotherclown (talk) 06:22, 3 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
As status quo ante bellum is in play, I will be editing it accordingly. --Rskp (talk) 23:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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significant music reference edit

see Australian composer May Summerbelle in reference to the light horse. Too often we learn the band played, but seldom of repertoire and even less an Australian work used at embarkation Tradimus (talk) 11:16, 12 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Victoria Cross recipients edit

As far as I can tell, Hugo Throssell and Leslie Maygar are the only Australian light horsemen to receive the VC; perhaps their portraits should be included in the sections on WW1 and the Boer War, respectively? --Goldsztajn (talk) 19:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

What is Light? edit

Does the word "light" refer to the horse at all?

Or just to the lightness of the armoury?

MBG02 (talk) 08:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC)Reply