Talk:Anemonoides nemorosa

Contaddiction

From de.wikipedia Das Buschwindröschen wird von Insekten bestäubt..., which is The wood anemone is pollinated by insects.... Does it rely on insects for pollination or not much?

Rename to Anemone nemorosa

Requested move 22 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. With little participation, and disagreement over whether to prioritize the style used by GBIF or POWO, this discussion did not result in a consensus. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Anemonoides nemorosa → Anemone nemorosa – Anemone nemorosa have 52 interwiki, Anemonoides nemorosa — 2 interwiki only. Anemone nemorosa is ACCEPTED in GBIF, Anemonoides nemorosa is SYNONYM in GBIF. Afanasovich (talk) 09:38, 22 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:42, 30 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:19, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

@Afanasovich, I hope this comes to fruition, as the name change bothers me and I'm sure confuses others.-- Quisqualis (talk) 18:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Apparently Anemone nemorosa was segregated into genus Anemonoides in 1973 along with numerous other taxa. Plants of the World Online (POWO) and The World Flora Online (WFO) recognize the name Anemonoides nemorosa (L.) Holub. I guess the question is: are genera Anemonoides and Anemone (as defined in POWO and WFO) monophyletic? Tom Scavo (talk) 19:20, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Afanasovich, do you have recent sources which state that Anemone and Anemonoides are phylogenetically in the same monophyletic clade (genus)?-- Quisqualis (talk) 02:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Quisqualis & @Tom Scavo I have no such sources. Moreover, I am not a botanist by profession. I just want to know the right way, if possible. I am concerned about uniformity and consistency between the different language sections of Wikipedia. I have repeatedly encountered contradictions between the articles Anemonoides nemorosa and Anemone nemorosa when translating articles from English Wikipedia to Russian Wikipedia. I understand that each language section takes a different approach to taxonomy, but it seems to me that it will be better when the taxon article has the largest number of interwiki. Afanasovich (talk) 11:28, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

In that case, I agree with your reasoning, but the general question of how we handle differing taxonomical approaches might best be asked at Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants. Be sure to emphasise that it's an issue of differing standards between Wikipedia's language versions.-- Quisqualis (talk) 14:12, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. English Wikipedia follows POWO (unless there is a good reason not to; other language editions of Wikipedia differing from POWO is not a good reason). In situations like this (different Wikipedias recognize a species, but place it in different genera), Wikidata practice is to put all the sitelinks on a single item (typically the item that has the name used by the majority of Wikipedias). Plantdrew (talk) 16:44, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Language links

I know local language links are deprecated, but as long as the anemone/anemonoides conflict exists it is the only work-around. Therefore I added link to fi and feel other users would like add their own links. Lathari (talk) 11:33, 12 April 2023 (UTC)