Talk:Amirabad (western Baft)

Requested move 15 November 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. While some consensus for a merge did emerge, many appeared to support instead moving of these four articles to their directional titles, with Arbitrarily0's suggestion seeming to enjoy a fair amount of support. While some alternatives were proposed in regards to "south" vs. "southern", etc., attaching -ern to the ending appears to be acceptable to participants. Therefore I can find that there is consensus for the moves as proposed by Arbitrarily0. (closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ^(talk) 20:32, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Amirabad (29°28′ N 56°25′ E), Baft → ?
• Amirabad (29°27′ N 56°32′ E), Baft → ?
• Amirabad (33°23′ N 48°58′ E), Dorud → ?
• Amirabad (33°34′ N 49°00′ E), Dorud → ?

– These disambiguator are rather unnatural and I find it hard to believe that someone would be able to find the current Amirabad, Baft or Amirabad, Dorud just by looking at the coordinates in the disambiguator. I have lived in a variety of places, none of which I have known the coordinates for. It seems that if there is any possibly more natural disambiguator, we should go with that; however, knowing almost nothing about Iran, I have brought this here to see what ideas people who might know more about Iran than myself would have. TartarTorte 23:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 05:19, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

• Move Amirabad (29°28′ N 56°25′ E), Baft to Amirabad, Baft, and merge/redirect the rest. CarlosSuarez made a ton of Iranian village stubs off a questionable dataset, and should not be trusted as reliable. THe other three villages appear to be very small (29 people!) and would be best merged to a List of populated places in Dorud County or the like, along with other tiny villages that may or may not exist, but this is a giant cleanup project so just redirecting them to Dorud County / Baft County might be acceptable if nobody's willing to create a list merge target. SnowFire (talk) 23:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
• How are these differentiated in Persian?—blindlynx 20:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

  Amirabad (33°23′ N 48°58′ E), Dorud is امیرآباد (دورود، جنوب) translated to Amirabad (Dorud, South)

  Amirabad (33°34′ N 49°00′ E), Dorud is امیرآباد (دورود، شمال) translated to Amirabad (Dorud, North)

  Amirabad (29°28′ N 56°25′ E), Baft is امیرآباد (بافت، غرب) translated to Amirabad (Baft, West)

  Amirabad (29°27′ N 56°32′ E), Baft is امیرآباد (بافت، شرق) translated to Amirabad (Baft, East)

  Those could all in theory work and this is how they are on farsi wikipedia. TartarTorte 20:41, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

  There a good reason not to do this?—blindlynx 22:36, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

  Nope, I just didn't think to research how they were on farsi wikipedia for some reason, not my best move  Self-trout. I think that translated titles should work well. TartarTorte 23:29, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

  Awesome! Fully support this move—blindlynx 05:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

  well not the self trout that ones all you—blindlynx 05:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

• Suggestion. What about something like Amirabad (southern Dorud), Amirabad (northern Dorud), etc.? Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 05:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
• Comment would support any move that gets rid of the coords, so far open to all suggestions, although unless there is a convention for Iranian places, I do also wonder if Amirabad (north Dorud), Amirabad (south Dorud), Amirabad (west Baft) and Amirabad (east Baft)? Prefer the shortened terms, but fully open to "northern" etc as proposed above. If needed, weakly support for the Farsi Wiki translations (anything over coords), but usually the directions goes before? So "north Dorud" over "Dorud, North"? DankJae 02:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
• Support moving away from the coords. Support Arbitrarily0's proposed titles. 'North' is typically used to describe the direction in relation to something/place (i.e. 'north of [County]') (that's unless is a part of a proper noun, i.e. North Dakota). While 'northern' refers to a large area within someplace. As disamiguators, "(northern [County])" describes more accurately the general area which the places are located within. – robertsky (talk) 19:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Should it be Amirabad (western Baft) or Amirabad, western Baft (cf. WP:PLACEDAB)? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge most per Snowfire; it's not likely that substantial sources can be found on a village of 29 people (if it even exists), so these topics could be better covered in a list article. (t · c) buidhe 19:56, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.