Talk:Allen Drury

Latest comment: 5 years ago by TAnthony in topic Gay characters

Drury's alleged carelessness with details edit

The last paragraph of the Allen Drury entry seems to belong in Editing or Discussion, not in the text.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by CassiusClay (talkcontribs) 13:02, July 28, 2006 (UTC)

This is a new writer editor. The reference to the Californa, New York alternative origin of a character alleged mistake is innacurate. The character had a complex childhhod, and had lived in both states. We also find little evidence and no data from the earlier writer supporting the other last paragraph criticism. 150.135.48.65 17:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
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Both Cullee Hamilton and Robert Leffingwell are referred to as being from two different states--Wehwalt 19:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

The debate is about the following sentence by User:Wehwalt [1]:
[His books] contain many characters, but are often careless with details – a character will be mentioned as being from New York in one book, and California in another. Especially in the later books, accurate parliamentary and judicial procedure is often sacrificed for the sake of the plot.
I haven't read any of Drury's books, but having checked the online external references listed in the article, the claim seems reasonable, although it's not explicitly confirmed... so I've added a "citation needed" tag, in the hope that Wehwalt or someone else can provide external references (recalling WP:NOR).
Kwi | Talk 20:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Doubt if there's much out there as interest in Drury mostly predates the Internet, but I will see what I can do or else rephrase. --Wehwalt 15:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Bogus reference? edit

I'm not quite sure about the following reference, supposedly added by one of the referenced authors (User:William percy) [2], and seemingly irrelevant. Smells like spam.

Johansson, Warren & Percy, William A. Outing: Shattering the Conspiracy of Silence. Harrington Park Press, 1994, p.99.

Kwi | Talk 20:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I've removed it a second time. Now, an episode of outing (when such things really mattered) occurs in Advise and Consent, when a senator commits suicide because he is threatened with the exposure, if he follows his principles, of a youthful homosexual affair (especially since the senator is from Utah; these days, of course, such a revelation would increase the senator's standing in the polls. Well, maybe not in Utah.) But I don't know if the link referrs to that.--Wehwalt 15:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Gay characters edit

The long section on the treatment of gay characters in the novels seems to have been bolted-on for no particular reason. Is it meant to be an oblique hint about the author? Valetude (talk) 12:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

I agree. It seems out of place. CsikosLo (talk) 12:56, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
I've confirmed that the notable gay content in Advise and Consent is included (with sources) in that article. The rest of this section is basically a POV term paper that makes many unsourced observations and conclusions, and so I've boldly removed it here. Some material may be appropriate for this article if reliable sources are found and cited. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 20:38, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply