Talk:All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (poetry collection)

Requested move 5 September 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 06:45, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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• All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace → All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (collection)
• All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (poem) → All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace

– It seems like the poem is the primary topic. There are sources about both, of course, but most look to be about the poem, which is Brautigan's most widely reprinted. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 02:52, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

• Support, the poem is printed in more than one of Brautigan's books, and is reprinted elsewhere. The collection seems to now be a lesser topic than the popular poem. Randy Kryn 15:09, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
• Support move of the book. The poem certainly gets more references in the sources than the book. However, the page views give me pause; the book receives far more page views (likely because it's at the base name) and both receive fewer views than All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (TV series).[1] In terms of long-term significance, however, the poem looks to be the most important of the three.--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:35, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
  • @Cuchullain: FWIW the article about the poem was just created last week, so until then all links about the poem previously pointed to the book. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 18:17, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Ahh, that explains it. More evidence to move the book.--Cúchullain ^t/c 18:19, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Closing instructions: Rhododendrites I have moved the book. As there is clear consensus for the poem, I left it as it is. I suggest trying a new RM for the poem. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 06:45, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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• Works for me. @Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: Thanks. FYI, I think that if, after you moved All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace to All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (collection), there weren't that second edit to the former, it would be possible to move the poem into that space without an RM (i.e. a non-admin can move a page over a redirect as long as the redirect has only one edit). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:19, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
  • @Rhododendrites: I replied to the RM, have a look and double check that things are correct. — Sam Sailor 14:49, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
    • @Sam Sailor: Looks good to me. Thanks. Out of curiosity, why the round robin move? Is that typical whenever a redirect has more than one edit (regardless of if the second edit is also part of the redirect, e.g. adding {{R from move}})? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:52, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
      • @Rhododendrites: I suppose an admin could choose to delete the two-line redirect when moving, I am not sure; I only hold the page mover permit. — Sam Sailor 15:11, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
        • @Sam Sailor: Aha! I remember the discussion proposing that user right, but I cleared my watchlist in there somewhere and didn't see it was actually created. Neat. Requested. :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 15:47, 13 September 2016 (UTC)