Talk:Alex Berenson

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Hob Gadling in topic "False claims"?

"False claims"? edit

Berenson appeared frequently in American right-wing media, spreading false claims about COVID-19 and its vaccines

This is much too broad of a statement, and the specific claims of falsehood should be verified by an un-biased source. Berenson has consistently cited government sources in his assertions.

Suggested replacement:

Berenson appeared frequently in American media, raising contrarian viewpoints that differ from the common narrative concerning COVID-19 and its vaccines. TiMike (talk) 11:35, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia does not do WP:FALSEBALANCE. See also WP:FRINGE, WP:YWAB, and WP:CHARLATANS. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:51, 6 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
Please read WP:GREL . Generally reliable in its areas of expertise.
Please especially read
WP:MEDPOP The popular press is generally not a reliable source for scientific and medical information in articles
And WP:NEWSORG Whether a specific news story is reliable for a fact or statement should be examined on a case-by-case basis. 213.237.95.221 (talk) 17:46, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, those are also good reasons against watering down the falsity of Berenson's statements. --Hob Gadling (talk) 19:35, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. The citations that prove his claims are false are from media companies, whereas his claims often come from government sources. If media companies have contacted experts who claim that Berenson is misinterpreting the data and can explain how, then it becomes a debate between interpretations and more expert analysis is required in order to assert that a claim is actually false. Cdnshipsnote (talk) 23:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

The article should simply state "claims". The sources provided are from random journalists, not peer reviewed medical papers, which would give more credibility. OC1986 (talk) 05:04, 1 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

“False claims” edit

Rewrite to alleviate the inherent bias of its author(s). Use term claims but be aware of several government citations which back the subject’s opinions. 68.132.130.55 (talk) 19:44, 24 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

You will need reliable sources for that, and they must be stronger than the ones we use now. "Government" is quite a ridiculous criterion for reliability. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:43, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Atlantic Article edit

Just had a brief look at the Atlantic article on him, concentrating on his mistakes. Fair enough, but perhaps the media, including Wikipedia should have tried to be critical about the pro-Covid-Hysteria and of Big Pharma.--Ralfdetlef (talk) 08:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)Reply