Talk:Aizoaceae

Latest comment: 6 years ago by User-duck in topic Citations

Where is it invasive? edit

You mention that carpobrotus edulus has become invasive. To Where? In South Africa it is endemic not invasive. Andrew massyn (talk) 19:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Citations edit

Are citations 3 - 8 correctly located? I believe the refer to the entire tribe or subfamily, not just a single genus.User-duck (talk) 03:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

They do apply to the tribe/subfamily. It's difficult to place them; the really only work at the end of the genus lists, or within a section header. References usually follow the material they support, so having them at the end of the genus list makes some sense (though I do see how it can be misleading). Another option might be to write for each section "Genera in the Aizooideae:" and hang the reference at after the colon. Plantdrew (talk) 21:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
I will try to move the citations. Wish me luck!User-duck (talk) 23:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
I put the citations on the "Tribe" and "Subfamily" lines. They look good to me.User-duck (talk) 00:14, 21 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
I now understand the problem. "References usually follow the material they support ...". I think the key word is usually, the citations are for the Tribes and Subfamilies. Wouldn't a citation for a table go with the heading of the table?User-duck (talk) 00:21, 21 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Looks good. There really isn't a perfect solution in this case. Table citations may go in text introducing a table, or in individual cells within a table. Plantdrew (talk) 20:21, 21 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately, it's against MOS:HEADINGS – "Headings should normally not contain links, especially where only part of a heading is linked"; "Citations should not be placed within, or on the same line as, section headings". My understanding is that a particular problem is with access and the way that screen readers handle section headings with links and citations. So I'm afraid that another solution is needed. Mine is normally to introduce a sentence of the general form "As of <date>, <source> accepted the following <taxa>:<ref>". Peter coxhead (talk) 16:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
I implemented an easy solution. The subfamilies do not need to be sections. The subfamilies and tribes were just headings for the lists.User-duck (talk) 22:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)Reply