Talk:AK-107

Latest comment: 11 months ago by ExtremeSquared in topic Bad physics / propagated rumors

Designer: Mikhail Kalashnikov? edit

I know it's a descendant of his AK-47 design, but was Kalashnikov personally involved in designing this rifle? — Red XIV (talk) 16:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Might not be, but there's a good chance he was. I mean, he still designs weapons for Russia yes? So it wouldn't be hard for him to modify his design repeatedly. Still, we may never receive confirmation of who did it, as if it was a new designer, Russia might try to keep him secret. They would probably keep it quiet no matter who did it.Rynky (talk) 23:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

No, it was another Izhmash engineer, Alexandrov, who had been working on the BARS system since the 1970s. AK in AK-107 is derived from Alexandrov/Kalashnikov, basically meaning that Alexandrov's BARS operating system was incorporated into the AK-pattern rifle. Koalorka (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

AK-109 edit

How come the 7.62x39mm AK-109 is not listed on the page? - 212.108.204.4 (talk) 07:50, 6 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Redundancy? edit

Isn't it kind of redundant to have a whole "Users" category when only Russia uses it and when there's a "Users" category in the infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:318F:4750:8595:3DF5:4368:C752 (talk) 22:55, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Bad physics / propagated rumors edit

The balanced recoil system does not reduce recoil. That is physically impossible with a projectile leaving the muzzle. This claim is common among firearms using this system, but physically debunkable. A perfectly-balanced autoloading bolt will in fact increase felt recoil (or more accurately, sharpen the impulse curve) to that of a bolt-action rifle.

It is not clear if these claims sprouted from AEK marketing -- which is harder to reject on wikipedia because it comes from an official source -- or from somewhere else. Furthermore, scarcity of these firearms makes debunking the claims through testing difficult. There are other claims made of the balanced recoil system which are not disprovable:

  • Increase cyclic rate
  • Decrease out-of-line forces on barrel, potentially increasing accuracy.
  • Reduce bolt weight / travel

The recoil claim is pervasive, and there should some editor consensus before yanking all of it out of the article. ExtremeSquared (talk) 20:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply