Talk:2022 Atlantic hurricane season/GA1

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Simongraham in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 10:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

This looks an interesting article nominated by 12george1. It seems to have had a lot of work recently so it will be good to see if it is a Good Article. I will start a review shortly. simongraham (talk) 10:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@12george1: I notice that there still seem to be editors working on this article. Can you please ping me when it is stable enough to assess. simongraham (talk) 10:44, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Simongraham: Looks pretty stable now. 2610:130:109:252:114A:26AF:7232:745A (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
This article has seen multiple edits since I opened this review, including some that have been reverted since the comment above, but now seems relatively stable. I will therefore look to start my review. simongraham (talk) 16:25, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Comments edit

  • The article is of substantial length, with 8.440 words of readable prose.
  • The lead is a reasonable length at 618 words.
  • It is currently assessed as a C class article.
  • 38.8% of authorship is by 12george1, 25.6% by Drdpw, with contributions from 212 other users.
  • In the talk page, it is noted that pages related to the season have been at risk of vandalism. This article has been subject to vandalism, but that has been reverted.
  • There is no evidence of edit wars.
  • Please remove the duplicate link to Atlantic hurricane season in the lead.
  • Please hyphenate "near average", "third costliest" "well-above average" when used as an adjective in the lead, for example in "near-average accumulated cyclone energy" and "the third-costliest Atlantic hurricane season" "a well-above-average season".
  • I believe "Eight of them strengthened into a hurricane" should be "into hurricanes".
  • In the main body, please remove duplicate links to Azores, Bermuda, Caribbean Sea, Costa Rica–Nicaragua border, extratropical cyclone, Florida Keys, Gulf of Mexico, Hurricane Nicole, Lesser Antilles, Mexico, La Niña, NOAA Hurricane Hunters, Nova Scotia, Pacific basin, Potential Tropical Cyclone, Savannah, South Carolina and Venezuela.
  • Consider also removing the duplicated links to Canary Islands, Central Florida and Dominican Republic and North Carolina.
  • Please move the link to Hurricane Ian to the first instance in the main body and check the other links too.
  • There are a few adjectives that need hyphens in the main body. For example, "above-average season" and, maybe, "extended range forecast" .
  • I believe "This was done after later analysis of lower chances of an El Niño during the season" should be "This was done after a later analysis of the lower chances of an El Niño during the season". Please check this and reword as needed.
  • Can you please rephrase "The 2022 season was the first season since 2014 to not have a pre-season named storm." to avoid the repeat of season.
  • Is it possible to rephrase "One disturbance over the Gulf of Mexico during the middle of the month was briefly designated as a potential tropical cyclone, but it did not organize into a tropical cyclone" to avoid the repeat of "tropical cyclone".
    • PTCs and TCs are there own things. The only way I could see it working is by saying just "...not organized into one" but that leaves it somewhat open to what is referring to. Though I might just be overanalyzing it. ✶Mitch199811 12:57, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • Consider rephrasing "Extensive street flooding occurred in the Miami area, but water entered only a few properties".
  • Consider rewriting "By 18:00 UTC on July 2, Colin fell to." as "By 18:00 UTC on July 2, Colin had fallen to".
  • I do not believe "offshore" is correct in "One person drowned offshore Oak Island". Please rephrase.
  • Please rephrase "to the westward". Would either "westward" or "to the west" be better?
  • I believe the second "to" in "to form and to track" is superfluous.
  • "totaled at least $6 million."
  • "By November 1, the extratropical system had shed its frontal characteristics".
  • Please rephrase "The disturbance brought heavy rain to coastal Tamaulipas and coastal South Texas, but no significant impacts associated with the disturbance were reported." to avoid the duplication of "disturbance".
  • The final table has links for the locations impacted even though these have already been linked in the body. This is consistent with the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season, which was passed for GA on 20 August 2020.
  • Spot checks confirm that the accessible sources are still live. Suggest adding archive URLs.
  • Spot checks of Blake 2022, Masters & Henson 2022 and Saunders & Lea 2021 confirm they are all about the subject.
  • I cannot see Blake's first name in the report on Danielle.
    • I'm not sure what you're talking about with this one. The tropical cyclone report on Danielle? That was written by Robbie Berg, who I correctly mentioned --12george1 (talk) 05:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
      • This report.[1] simongraham (talk) 08:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
        • At the bottom, it says "Forecaster Blake". If you check the staff page, he is listed in the top middle column under "Senior Hurricane Specialists" subheading. No one else on staff at the NHC has that last name.--12george1 (talk) 20:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • Most of the sources are contemporary reports in newspaper articles, and thus primary sources as defined in WP:PRIMARYNEWS.
  • However, as per WP:PRIMARYSOURCE, "Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them". Please add some secondary sources.
    • That may be difficult due to the recency of this season, but I could try if that's necessary--12george1 (talk) 20:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • All the images have relevant CC or PD tags.
  • I can only see an ALT tag on Danielle and Earl on September 5 2022.jpg. Please add them to all the images for accessibility.
    • I seem to recall alt text only being a requirement for Featured Article, but I could be mistaken --12george1 (talk) 20:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@12george1: This is a real tour de force. Please look at my comments above and ping me when you would like me to take another look. simongraham (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @12george1: I see that many edits have taken place. Are you ready for me to review please? simongraham (talk) 19:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Simongraham: Go ahead.--12george1 (talk) 20:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Assessment edit

The six good article criteria:

  1. It is reasonable well written.
    the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; 
    it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead, layout and word choice. 
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    it contains a reference section, presented in accordance with the layout style guideline; 
    all inline citations are from reliable sources; 
    it contains no original research; 
    it contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism; 
  3. It is broad in its coverage
    it addresses the main aspects of the topic. 
    it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). 
  4. It has a neutral point of view.
    it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to different points of view. 
  5. It is stable.
    it does not change significantly from day to day because of any ongoing edit war or content dispute. 
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    images are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content; 
    images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. 

I believe that this article meets the criteria to be a Good Article.

  Pass simongraham (talk) 21:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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