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The reports sparked nationwide riots by the Qerro, leaving at least 67 people dead, including five police officers.
Can we please get a sourced definition of the term "Qerro"? None of the 3 cited sources on this sentence use the word and it's not defined anywhere else in the article. Anybody know what it means? 8.19.241.10 (talk) 14:23, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
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The label "protests" is ill-suited to the events related in this article. They are characterized less by an organized or spontaneous opposition to a policy than they are by violence against certain groups. In this respect, Jawar's allegation is less a rationale than it is a pretext. As described in the article, the recurring theme of the events of the past week have been attacks against various identity groups—ethnic, religious, and linguistic—in the Oromo region and surrounding region. This includes even other Oromo groups, according to reliable sources (a tweet from the Addis Ababa correspondent for The Economist; pending publication in secondary sources, upon which I will place them in the article), the Salale Oromo have been targeted. To refer to these as mere protests is disingenuous and indeed runs the risk of complicity with those who would engage in denialism about their nature. The label should be something less anodyne. --Varavour (talk) 01:26, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Varavour, as you describe, "protests" is maybe not ideal. However, deaths during violent protests is not unheard of and RS consistently use the term "protests". I am not seeing many or any sources that use the word "riots". Also, calling people of color "rioters" is a common trope. We should avoid it unless sources use that word consistently. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
"People of color"? All parties involved are "people of color". The problem is that the deaths are not incidental but are in fact a core element of the manifestations. It's organized violence.--Varavour (talk) 04:37, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Rioters is a loaded word. There are dozens of violent protests currently ongoing around the world. Why would we selectively choose this one to label as a riot when the sources do not? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:56, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Because the primary thrust of these "protests" is not demonstrating opposition to a policy or a government, but engaging in targeted violence against certain groups on the basis of religion or ethnicity. --Varavour (talk) 13:11, 30 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
I propose that we use the title 2019 Ethiopian clashes.
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Hi @Varavour: - just wanted to clarify the Oromo Region / Oromia Region distinction. Oromo Region redirects to the latter. While it seems both are used in sources, Oromia seems to be the most common. Could you explain why you think it should be Oromo? Sam Walton (talk) 13:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Ok. I think the term is inappropriate but it does seem most sources use it. Varavour (talk) 15:13, 29 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
