Talk:2014 Tsunami March

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made by--Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk) 20:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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Naming and merge

Both the marches and protests are taking place at the same time but the dynamics and objectives are different. Therefore, it should not be merged. PTI is trying to bring the change within the system and PAT wants compete reforms before elections. Therefore, I will advice not to merge both the articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.91.250 (talk) 04:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Merge-There is separate article about protest by PAT titled Inqilab March. Its is stub and not have much info. Should we merge it here? Express your opinion.
• Rename- thaught Azadi march sounds ok but its political name of the movement. Other parties and people, political and nonpolitical are also.involved. should we better rename it 2014 Pakistan anti-government protest which includes Azadi march, Inqilab march and all other non political marches. What you say? -Nizil (talk) 16:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support – rename and merge them. Khadar Khani (talk) 20:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose – Azadi March was called for investigating the allegations of election 2013 rigging, whereas Inqilab March was launched to dislodge the elected upper and lower houses of the government of Pakistan. Hambok (talk) 15:38:20, 02 September 2014 (UTC)

• Both against the government, and finally joined together?! Khadar Khani (talk) 11:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Strongly support merge per above reasons. Charles Essie (talk) 00:22, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

• Strongly Oppose The article should not be submerged because its a political movement held by PTI which is a separate independent political party and Inqilab march has no influence on this movement. I also oppose the name changing of the page because it must be given its prev itheme "Azadi March" by which this movement is recognized in media and every source in Pakistan. Azadi March is not a part of Inqilab March. Both are different movements with differente views, for differente reasons, leaded by different leaders. If someone know reading Urdu the national language of Pakistan can see clearly the banner of the page which say "Azadi march". (Dr. Shahid Alam(Talk to Me) 08:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC))

Views of User: Dr. Shahid Alam are fully endorsed. Nannadeem (talk) 14:27, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Azadi March and Inqilab March have converted into sit-ins as they reached Islamabad, the PTI chief Imran Khan also called for a civil disobedience later on 16 August 2014. Both the marchers never rejected their coalition, instead supporting each other. Have a look at the coverage at The Express Tribune (see: [1], [2]) and Dawn (see: [3]). All I'm saying is that the article comes under civil conflict which includes not only protest march but also civil disobedience, sit-ins, hunger strike etc. For further details see Protest#Forms of protest. The foreigner sources like Al Jazeera English and BBC News also termed these protests sit-ins instead of marches; the interesting part is they named these protests as Anti-government protests. (see: [4] and [5]). Regards, --Khadar Khani (talk) 17:40, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Azadi March and Inqilab March have converted into sit-ins. Its ok. In Pakistan this sit-in is called Dharna. I am not supporting change of name or merger. However, the best name might be PTI and PAT Dharna in consideration of positive approach. Dharna is a kind of protest and latest style of agitation, therefore word “anti” appears to be inappropriate in view of applying best terms of conflicts for establishing positive environment. The matter relates to Pakistan, thus the practice of Pakistan owns the right of pre-emption.Nannadeem (talk) 13:29, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

As only the name of article is changed whole wording is based on Azadi March I think changing if the name have been useless. The Inqilab March already have an article so I think we should have a discussion regard replacing the name with azadi march--Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk) 17:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC). I also think that the background of both marches also differ as Imran wanted to have an electoral postmortem whereas Qadri wished to replace the system and meanwhile the attacks on pat also shows different background so I don't think just on bases of anti government this articles should merges in each other.--Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk) 17:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC) As soon as possible the suggestion of merging in the article should be rejected because the background , history , crowd and finally the goals also differ with each other so at any cause the article should be not merged in. In further the name of article should be replaced with Azadi March. Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Good activity. But the merger template is still visible. I have removed the same merger template from Inqilab March page.Nannadeem (talk) 19:53, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

user:Nannadeem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk • contribs) 13:23, 25 September 2014 (UTC) as most of the disscussion and user wished not to merge the article therefore i have decided to remove the templete of it from article becuase i dont think thought of any particular should be apploed to entire article.--Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk)

ITN

Hi, I nominated this article for ongoing category of ITN on the main page. There is an ongoing discussion here feel free to share your opinion. thanks Legaleagle86 (talk) 13:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

• Nomination for ITN is seconded Nannadeem (talk) 18:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Changed the name of article to previous

I have replaced the name of article with its original name Azadi March because that is the name it's owner are using soo any individual does not posses the right to change or interpretate the name for his wish so we must make the name used generally.this article is also not giving any information regarding Inqilab march so I don't think it should continue with the name and therfore I have named it as Azadi March 2014 and also for helping the new user have added the tag of anti government movement of 2014 so before replacing any name come discuss and if u make consensus so replace the name other wise we can't change any article name due to our wishes.--Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk)

Timeline in Islamabad

This section seems to be over grown and looks really bad in the table of contents and also adds unnessary notability to each day as compared to the event itself. It might be better to use minor headings without adding them to table of contents like:

This one

Or maybe fork into an events list of Azadi March that is linked into this article (that way it notability of events being listed day wise will face better scrutiny for inclusion). Either way, this article will look better. --lTopGunl (talk) 01:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

K.I.S.S. PRINCIPLE

Whoever was the smart-ass that changed the name of the article from "Pakistan Protests 2014" to "Azadi March" was an IDIOT. Have you ever heard of the KISS principle? Let me spell it out for you: KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! You know it's bad enough the world media is ignoring us, you folks have done a WONDERFUL job in making sure nobody manages to find a WIKIPEDIA article on it either! PEOPLE ARE NOT SEARCHING "AZADI MARCH" in freaking Guatemala, they're searching PAKISTAN PROTESTS. Please for the LOVE of GOD stop politicising this movement...PTI and PAT started the movement but its CLEARLY GROWING into something much bigger. The sheer fact you can't see how stupid decisions like this are HURTING your movement completely shocks me. The more you keep say "I did this...look at me...yoo hoo" the more harder its going to be to find allies in other parties or those with other political beliefs to join your movement. There are plenty of people on the fence right now and the only reason is because PTI has failed to pick up on the fact that these protests are MUCH bigger and can potentially become MUCH BIGGER if they collectively represent all Pakistanis. There are plenty of people in ANP, PPP and PMLN itself (voters/supporters) who agree with Imran Khan. Why are you indirectly shunning them aside.

FFS man! — Preceding unsigned comment added by OccupyPakistan (talk • contribs) 17:30, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

@OccupyPakistan: While I do not care what the title of the article is, what you did is called a cut and paste move and does not keep the history intact. You may wish to post a request at WP:RM to have the move completed. With that being said, you will likely find more support and thoughtful discussion if you tone it down. Calling people an idiot in all caps is a personal attack and is not healthy to discussion. If someone searches for 2014 Pakistan anti-government protest, they will be directed to this article. To help find allies for the movement is not a valid reason for the move... that is not Wikipedia's goal. Apparition^{11 Complaints}/Mistakes 22:22, 2 October 2014 (UTC).

Anyone unaware of EN:WP this is not the matter of this encyclopedia. A tool of redirect is available here and your search topic has been covered. If you do not know you may get help for one or two more redirected topics, but please care sentiments of PTI and PAT first who are the primary subject of this page.Nannadeem (talk) 14:29, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Length of Timeline in Islamabad section

Is it worth having such a lengthy section while it is not maintained? There is no edits to it after mid september. Maybe make a separate article out of it and only a small summary here. --yh (talk) 12:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Lead section

The section contains seven paragraphs, surpassing the four-paragraph rule. Some portions should be moved to body or condensed. --George Ho (talk) 08:20, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Aftermath section

I found it difficult reading the article to find out what the actual outcome of the march was, perhaps further subdivision is necessary. Factsoverfeelings (talk) 16:30, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

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