Talk:1922 Republic of Central Lithuania general election

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Piotrus in topic Number of deputies

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Plebiscite? I do doubt it, as the last attempt to host a plebiscite was declared as "failed" by the League of Nations.--Lokyz 16:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

PPS? edit

I'm a bit curious of the passage " and only the Bolshevist Socialist Party of Lithuania and Belarus participated". Russian and polish wiki state that this party was actually called 'Polish Socialist Party of Lithuania and Belorussia', thus not being a 'Lithuanian' party which is implied in the article wording. --Soman (talk) 11:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Could you find a reference on this (per WP:RS and WP:V, and it would be more valuable if it would be English)?--Lokyz (talk) 23:06, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
No. I just find pl:Sejm_Orzekający and ru:Виленский_сейм. --Soman (talk) 23:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
Not the best sources, sadly. No references present there. I do also read Russian and Polish.--Lokyz (talk) 23:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
P.S it's an interesting read, nothing at least similar than presented in the en.wiki:)--Lokyz (talk) 23:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
Those articles are about the parliament; our is about the election to it.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:45, 13 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Number of deputies edit

Sources seem contradictory.

Witos states "The two largest political groups in the new parliament were the Association of National Parties and Organizations with 43 seats and the Popular Councils with 34 seats. All the other groups gained 28 seats altogether." This is the same as The primary document which lists: (Association of National Parties and Organizations (43), Popular Councils (34), Polish People's Party of Wilno Land (13), Democratic Party (4), Popular Assosiation "Odrodzenie-Wyzwolenie" (5), Popular Assosiation "Odrodzenie" (3), Polish Socialist Party of Lithuania and Belarus (3)). That would be 105.

But pl wiki article on the Sejm as (unreferenced) the following count for the minor parties (43 and 34 numbers are the same): PSL Ziemi Wileńskiej – 13 (Bronisław Krzyżanowski), PSL Odrodzenie-Wyzwolenie – 6 (Ludwik Chomiński), Stronnictwo Demokratyczne – 4 (Witold Abramowicz), PSL Odrodzenie – 3 (Stefan Mickiewicz), PPS Litwy i Białorusi – 3 (Aleksander Zasztowt), Grupa Włościańskich Rad Ludowych – 7 (Adam Uziembło). That adds up to 36, so the total would be 113. Although the pl wiki article on elections has a different count yet: " Kolejne miejsca zajęły PSL Ziemi Wileńskiej (związane z PSL „Piast”) – 13 miejsc, PSL „Odrodzenie – Wyzwolenie” (związane z PSL Wyzwoleniem) – 6, PSL „Odrodzenie” – 3, Stronnictwo Demokratyczne – 4, PPS Litwy i Białorusi – 3.", minus the GWRL (7), that's 106 total. The difference is in Wyzwolenie count (5 vs 6). GWRL seems to a splinter party created later.

Lithuanian wiki article on the Sejm has an unreferenced total of 106 deputies. Pl wiki does not provide such a count.

This source about the vote for joining Poland states that 96 deputies were for, 6 against, 10 abstained. That's 112.

I cannot find a single source that actually clearly states how many deputies were in the parliament. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

PS. A bit more digging. The number 106 seems to be most common: "Na 106 posłów Rady Ludowe miały 29 przedstawicieli . Sejm wileński ostatecznie".... The sentiment of the delegates was overwhelmingly in favor of annexation ; only eight of the 106 deputies favored a federal solution of the Vilna questiom. Sejm Wileński , zwany też Sejmem Orzekającym - organ przedstawicielski Litwy Środkowej , powolany 8 I 1922 w powszechnych wyborach dla wyrażenia woli ludności w sprawie ... Wyłoniony w wyniku wyborów Sejm składał się ze 106 postów, Sejm Wileński... . 64 % uprawnionych : wybory zbojkotowali Litwini i częściowo Białorusini oraz Żydzi ; izba składała się z 106 posłów. A few other sources confirm this number, but I cannot find any other source for the numbers 105 or 112 and 113.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply