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Mathew Chuck

I know that the article survided deletion twice already - however that was over a year ago. Looking at the discussions the bio is not warrented as he is not notiable by any means. However the fact that an Independent won a position rather than someone in a faction.

The bio itself has language problems. Any chance you would reconsider? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petrol pyro (talk • contribs) 13:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

taekwondo

I put in that "Taekwondo is used by the South Korean military"

first of all "south korea" didnt exist in 1910 and im clearly talking about the modern ROK army. I honestly dont care whether taekwondo started in 1940 or 1990, thats up to all the biased editors out there to squabble and fight over in these increasingly worthless things called "mediations".

Taekwondo is used by the modern South Korean military. Thats a fact and if you really arent convinced thats true, ill spend 5 minutes on google and find a legit link. Good friend100 (talk) 11:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

yeah whatever maybe ill look for an article. i have better things to do than dance for the administrators here. Good friend100 (talk) 09:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Kingstonian

I see you reverted my removal of redilinks on the Kingstonian F.C. article. For information, the Ks are a semi-professional club, none of whose players are notable unless they have previously played professionally (of which only one has). I got rid of the redlinks to ensure that editors would not be tempted to create articles which would be immediately deleted (I speedied four of them this morning). Regards, пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Branches of Wing Chun Citations

Heya Nate, saw your tag request for more references. What types of things were you refering to that you'd like to see references for? I'll see what I can dig up. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 19:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

KEFW Revert Please

You were the last user to revert changes to the King Edward VI Five Ways page. Can you please revert it back to the last edit made by me? The edits after that I consider vandalism, and need to be reverted. Alex Holowczak (talk) 13:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Allegations of apartheid deletion notification

Some time ago, you participated in a deletion discussion concerning Allegations of Israeli apartheid. I thought you might like to know that the parent article, Allegations of apartheid, was recently nominated for deletion. Given that many of the issues that have been raised are essentially the same as those on the article on which you commented earlier, you may have a view on whether Allegations of apartheid should be kept or deleted. If you wish to contribute to the discussion, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of apartheid (fifth nomination). -- ChrisO (talk) 18:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

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Reverts

Thank you for inserting the box in the article. The birth date is wrong as I am now 64, living my 65th year. Another editor who partook in removing most of the information to history has reverted the information already. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 14:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• I appreciate your edit, but the box really serves no useful purpose. Originally it contained an image posted by the Administrator who created it, but that was deleted as well. There is an extensive discussion with J. Milburn on that. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• Nate, I am so pleased with the edits you have contributed so far, the first action by anyone after so many statements of good intentions by others to work on the article. I am encouraged for the first time in a long time. Thanks. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• I do agree most of the Administrators take their responsibilities seriously and have been well intentioned in performing that task. While I suffered personal disappointed at the time with the bulk of the information removed to history, I accept and understand the reasons why this was done. If you were interested enough to follow the intense discussions on the copyright images deleted, in the section 'Let's build the article together' I refer to an orphaned copyright image associated with reference 11 in the article from Maclean's Magazine that has been released to the public domain. Could that possibly be posted to the article? I am looking forward to contributing to other articles with a turn of phrase or words that are encyclopedic. Obviously I need more experience in doing this. Ray DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• Nate, as the only editor who made an actual contribution to building the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier compared to the editors who just removed information, I would like to know what you think about what's going on in this discussion. Hopefully you can enlighten me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kingturtle#Images_Copyright_and_Free. Kingturtle writes, "It is quite rare for a major corporation to release something they own into the public domain." Well, Lo! and Behold! a major corporation released what they own to me at no charge, giving me permission to reprint it on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MacLean%27s.jpg. Being such a rare thing according to Kingturtle, he removed it saying it brings nothing to the article. It does not take away from the article. Is there some policy involved here?

I'm not interested in an edit war, but I do need another opinion. By his unilateral action, it that his POV or does he speak for the entire Community? Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 10:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Hopefully I answered your question on Kingturtle's talk. I would like to know the answer to the question just above? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 13:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• Nate, I just want to let you know how much I appreciate your support. It seems I have been discussing and arguing alone with the same gang of 4 Administrators since they noticed my article last month. I think I have provided additional information on the relevance of the missile strike path so other people might post an opinion. The discussion is on the article talk where it belongs here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ray_Joseph_Cormier#User_Talk:_Kingturtle_concerning_this_article Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

• Nate, you made a comment in the discussion over this. What a difference a day, a week or a month makes! As you may have noticed, I withdrew from further discussion from this site after the disputations over this image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MacLean%27s.jpg that Kingturtle removed from the article.

World events will now bring into clearer focus the relevancy of it. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 20:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

TKD

I guess the next step would be an RfC, and if that doesnt work, onward to the ArbCom RogueNinja_talk 19:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I tried an RfC before I tried the first mediation. [1] With no luck from an RfC, two mediations, and posts at the martial arts WikiProject and at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, I suspect ArbCom is where things are headed. But I'll certainly participate if an RfC is tried. JJL (talk) 20:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Manac is away for a couple of weeks so if we can get him to join the mediation, then we should give that a try 1st, Abcom is primarily about behaviour, and will most likely end with multiple people being restricted from editing TKD & related articles &/or blocks, none of which is the best out come as the article will still be in a sub optimal state. Mediation has more positive possibilities as it involves people who care about the content. --Nate1481(^t/_c) 09:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but until we can get a disinterested third party to look at things I think we're still at loggerheads. I still have a lot of problems with some of the sources being used. I think your presence has been calming but ultimately the disagreements remain. With mediation having failed (twice), as well as an RfC, informal mediation, the RSN, etc., what we've got now is an article largely bereft of info., which seems a shame. JJL (talk) 18:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

In response to your post on my page, I decided a long time ago that if I didn't have any references to contribute to the taekwondo page, I was going to stay out of the arguments. On that page (and notably, on the karate page, too) there has seemed to be a lot of strong opinions and very little in the way of published secondary sources. The resolution should be obvious, though. If there are published references, they win over opinion; if there are conflicting published references, then all points of view should be presented without declarations as to which is superior. But just like the current Bujinkan issue, there is too much childishness involved. Bradford44 (talk) 23:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

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your reverts

I repeat: you are breaking WP:AGF, WP:NOT#NEWS, WP:NN, TRY actually reading them thoroughly because what you are try to add is not the fight results. If you insist on trying to add them back. Then incorporate them into the article and you won't have a disagreement from me.Swampfire (talk) 17:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Then you didn't read them well. I have cited reasons for removal. You have cited to reason it should stay. So there fore it will be removed. If you feel it should be on the PAGE it is not a problem with me If you incorporate it into the article. But not the results. As there was even someone in the discussion (not me)point out that it was agreed upon to keep the results to a minimum.Swampfire (talk) 17:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I can also point out atleast one policy you ae breaking as well. Which I had not used yet.Swampfire (talk) 17:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

And if you were to actually read the format page. You will see Where they included two sections for such stuff you want to add. Miscellenea and footnotes Feel free to add these sections to a page to add the stuff you want.Swampfire (talk) 17:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

OK since you dont want to read the guidleines and actually do some work and be able to keep the stuff. I now stating a policy that supports the full removal of most of the stuff I had removed. WP:BLP Bare in mind now it shouldn't be added back at all.Swampfire (talk) 17:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD of Okichitaw

Hey, I've made a few edits of the Okichitaw article. Please take a look and see if that convinces you to vote Keep at the deletion discussion.--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 03:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I chose the user name Setanataustralia because I want to be open that I am employee of Setanta and therefore give my changes credability. Recently a user deleted massive sections of the Setanta pages wasting a lot of my own work done as a guest user and I don't want this to happen again. I thought it preferable to identify myself rather than hide my identity, don't you think? My only goal is to provide accurate sports and broadcast information about Setanta Australia for the wikipedia site. I don't really see how a username can be advertising as no-one sees it but am happy to change it to anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Setantaaustralia (talk • contribs) 23:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with editing

Hi Nate1481, thanks for helping out with correcting the formatting on the immunoprecipitation page to fit in with Wikipedia guidelines. I'm new to this and don't know all the recommend settings yet. ScienceGuy5555 (talk) 11:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

SKH author...

agreed, your wording is better. Jikaku (talk) 12:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

140.232.179.120 is REALLY getting on my nerves... --Jikaku (talk) 13:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

User: Swampfire

I see that you are a member of the wikiproject mixed martial arts. I also saw you had an argument with User:Swampfire. I caught him making bad faith edits and vandalizing the article on Forrest Griffin. He tried to edit out the fact his win over Rampage was controversial despite being referenced by four different sources. After not getting his way he entered into an edit war and began spamming my talk page. I have nominated him to be removed from the wikiproject. --Xander756 (talk) 23:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey there. I was wondering if you would take the time to weigh on on the debate on the talk page of Forrest Griffin's article. Swampfire seems to be standing alone but continues his edits seemingly in bad faith. --Xander756 (talk) 04:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Nate1481,

I've been working on the immunoprecipitation page and on the pages linking to that page and from that page... kind of building a stronger web of information around that hub. Recently I've added a section on the different types of immunoprecipitation, IP, Co-IP, Chromatin Immunoprecipitation (ChIP), RIP, IP of tagged proteins... etc. For the ChIP there was already a page that had some great info on ChIP but not a ton of info. Because ChIP is a subtype of immunoprecipitation it seems that it fits properly on the immunoprecipitation page and I've duplicated that content on the Immunoprecipiation page. Is it ok to redirect the Chromatin immunoprecipitation traffic to the Immunoprecipitation page or is that the wrong thing to do? thanks for your help. ScienceGuy5555 (talk) 14:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Dan Inosanto

If you'd stop walking on my edits while I'm trying to add refs, I'd be happy to do so. Strange that even a novice martial artist would not think Lucaylucay, tarani, Cucci, or Imada are not notable.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 15:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Understood, as long as some shitheel doesn't come in and prune out the redlinks. I've trained with and have known most of those men for 5-20 years. I don't feel very comfortable starting articles on them.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 16:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

See what I mean:[2]--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Nav boxes

Most martial arts articles seem to have both boxes at the bottom of the article, (1) focus and (2) country of origin.

--RisingSunWiki 20:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

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Do you train with someone in Bradford or have you got your own club? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawey (talk • contribs) 17:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Japanese Sword Spam

The site I listed here was not spam. It was intended to provide more information on Japanese Swords. That's what wikipedia is for. It's an information site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Writerjohan (talk • contribs) 07:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Military Combatives.

Thank you for the reference to the homepage. I still fail to see how I was advertising something that belongs in the descriptions for military combatives or hand to hand combatives. If something is being used by active duty military, State Department personnel, and a few other government agencies this should be included in the historical descriptions of hand to hand combatives. It should not be limited to 2 systems being used by a small portion of the Federal Government i.e. the Army and Marine Corps. What do you feel constitutes advertising from informing?

V/R,

Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by URBANlvl4 (talk • contribs) 10:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I,m sure we've met as i have been up to do gradings to the Uni in Bradford. You could give me some info on Wiki, i have just started using it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawey (talk • contribs) 12:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

RfC

There is an RfC dealing with JJL, particularly his most recent diatribe which was largely directed at me. Naturally, I understand that you may not wish to become involved in this, but I wanted you to be aware just in case you wish to sign the RfC. Omnedon (talk) 20:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Taekwondo

Hey Nate, how's this article doing? Last time I dropped it on it, I thought that the problem was behavioral rather than a matter of content. I've heard that it's gone a bit downhill since then, so don't hesitate to throw me a line if the edit warring or talkpage discussion gets heated again. east718 // talk // email // 03:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

104.232.150.91 Heads Up

I thought I should note that the user at IP 140.232.150.91 (talk), who was temporarily banned with that IP as well as 140.232.179.120 (talk), is now back making the same edits with a new IP: 65.4.79.45 (talk). --Jikaku (talk) 00:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Fistfight

Sorry but the article is big enough, it's not a start anymore.

Yes it has no English references but: 1. It all was referenced and translated. I sat the whole day and made shure every claim has a source, I brought the quote, and translated the quote. 2. The article is to big to be a start.

It's not a FA, not a GA, and not an A. But it's for shure a C. Kostan1 (talk) 13:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

But that means that even theoreticaly that article cant turn into a C-class. Not only that, when Bradford reverted me the article was realy weak. But now all the quotes were brought and translated. Now the claim that the general Englsih speaker cant't check it is not true, for who I translated all for few hours? It's all in English now. Lets hear more voices. If people oposse now, I revert myself. Kostan1 (talk) 13:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

A great idea! Thank you. Kostan1 (talk) 13:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Assume good faith?

Thank you for your interest in my question, and comments to other editors about it. I've been watching the Olympics, and taekwondo was featured yesterday. It doesn't feel good that at least one editor seems to feel the question was intended as some kind of insult, but I'm not that kind of person, or editor. I simply asked a question that wasn't answered in any WP article, which I'd always wondered about, as when I was growing up in the U.S., karate was much more widespread and better known than taekwondo. I believe that experts who work on the Taekwondo article, many of whom are probably quite knowledgeable about this martial art's history, will have a better idea about the answer(s) to this than editors working at the IOC article, which deals with several dozen sports, contrary to your recommendation. Badagnani (talk) 08:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your additional comment. That is exactly the sort of information I'm seeking, and have confidence that the many expert editors who regularly contribute to the taekwondo article will already know the background, or know where to find this, allowing us to supplement the article. The fact that the subject is contentious doesn't particularly interest me, but the reasons for why taekwondo was chosen over the similar karate does, and I believe other editors may wonder this as well. Badagnani (talk) 10:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

History

Hi, Nate, you're impressive as trying to be as neutral and cool as possible to such answer. I've always appreciated your efforts to pacify our ongoing and long-term tendentious heat on the article. Well, I could not waste any good faith on the user who casted a question about Taekwondo. He attacked me yesterday somewhere and has a tendency to follow my every edits. I regard the question is nothing but a provocation, given the history of the article, and the user's behaviors. If someone asked the same question on the page, I also would say the same first answer of yours. I don't think Wikiepdia is not a Q & A to solve one's curiosity, but only knowledgeable editors on a subject should be deserved to write about it. Best.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. You put the notability tag on Hokutoryu jujutsu. Could you explain what is the problem with notability? I put some info on the discussion page. --SM (talk) 16:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

hi

sometimes i hope i can be as successful and as smart as you. A martial artist with science degree it's just amazing. I have one question i hope u might be able to answer me. What makes books so interesting? I really want to get smarter but i cant focus wile reading. what type of books do you enjoy reading? What is it that motivates you to read?Kiaora321 (talk) 16:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Kiaora321

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fight chronology - j-y theriault

Nate: Why do you keep removing J-Y's fight chronology? I see I am not the first to have added it. While you may not consider it relevant (a brag list to be exact), it is obviously of interest to some people. ````ondaatje —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ondaatje (talk • contribs) 03:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Japanese sword

Hi! I just removed that V and A as a red link. Because there's no URL at all. See this. And please write a correct edit summary. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 10:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops. I made a mistake too. See this The IP user put the link in the wrong place. I didn't noticed it. I should have been more careful. Sorry. Don't worry. I won't restore that link the IP added. To tell the truth, I wasn't sure if it was a spam. 'Cause the gallery page was not that bad. That's why I modified it. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 14:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Sorry for editing your comment! I was copying the hash symbol (german keyboards don't have one) and must have don't something bizarre with copy/paste.Yobmod (talk) 12:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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Why do you say "no consensus for merger"? Did you read Korean swordsmanship#merger? I waited for a month and there was no objection. I think I waited enough. You reverted my edit although you did not even participated in the discussion. If you say "there is no consensus," what do you call a "consensus"? How can we reach a consensus? Please tell me.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 12:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The joys of editing the Oom Yung Doe article

First of all, thanks for your efforts to keep things real over at Oom Yung Doe. While I try to keep things as NPOV as possible, it is particularly helpful to have someone else get rid of some of those biased words that occasionally pop out of my...well...typing. At any rate, you certainly appear to have more experience with Wikipedia than I have, so there are a few questions I've been asking around about the OYD article:

• Do you have any comments on "self-published" sources? I am familiar with a self-published book about OYD (not written by myself) called "Herding the Moo," that summarizes a lot of the practices and critical commentaries on OYD. It was previously included in the article, but was removed by someone new to Wikipedia for being a self-published source. I have read up a bit on the Wiki policies relating to self-published sources, but I'm afraid they are not clear enough for my taste. Do you think that adding such a source would be acceptable or not?

• There are a lot of companies associated with OYD that sell their "herbal" products. Should those go in the references section or the "external links" section?

• Do you think I should try to add an info boxes in? OYD is really somewhere between a martial art and, according to some, a cult. So should its info box look more like this one for aikido [3] or this one for Scientology [4]?

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Hi Nate

I am Paulo Albuquerque from Kombato.

I was reading your terms about deleting Kombato, and it seems something of babelfish did not worked right; and there´s some misunderstanding there. In no part of all the site says it trains all the UN and the russians. It only says that I, my self, exchanged knowledge with a lot of people from another countries, including Russia. About UN, we trained the Brazilian Marines for UN missions.

Do not trust computer based translations...!

Paulo Albuquerque

German school of fencing

This school teaches a distinct martial arts style known as the Kunst des Fechtens, which was developed in Germany. Saying that it isn't a separate art, and that it is just another form of fencing, is like saying kenjutsu is just another form of fencing. Fencing in this case is used as its original meaning of "fighting" instead of the modern meaning for the Olympic sport.

The German School of Fencing and the Kunst des Fechtens art synonymous today.

SBS

Removed what looked like patent details & implied actions here & here--Nate1481 16:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image:OYD Altered Photo.jpg

You are correct I missed your message. I have restored the picture and sent it to PUI, just in case. I however think that the uploader's licensing assertion is not credible and that I9 speedy is not incorrect. Your concerns are sound, though. Let's see if someone comes with a good source and license. -- lucasbfr ^talk 13:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

He is indeed correct about the "uploader's licensing assertion" as the uploader (me) still hasn't made it that far up the wikipedia learning curve. Originally I thought that since the photos were cropped, that this meant they were GNU. At any rate, the uploader has learned better and has tried to create a better non free use rationale. Thanks for getting the picture sent to PUI - which I assume protected it from immediate deletion. Cjim63 (talk) 15:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Pier Gerlofs Donia

Please review and pass the following article for GA class. It is well referenced article of brilliant prose and both the Rambling man and user talk:Jimbo Wales agree it should be a Good Article. Last king of Frisia (talk) 10:02, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Modification on Tiger balm page

Hi Nate1481

Sorry for my english i am french ;-(

Don't worry for my modification in a Indication section of "tiger balm", I just change my old name website "http://www.baume-du-tigre.fr/en/index.htm" by my new website name (english) "http://www.tigerbalm.org"

Thank and regards

Chris Exporthailand (talk) 03:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)ExporthailandExporthailand (talk) 03:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Matt Thommas

I'm new to editing wiki pages and I am trying to improve the Model Mugging and Matt Thomas(martial artist) pages. I know there has been some contriversy about Matt Thomas, however I don't understand how he can not be significant if his developement of Model Mugging is significant. I can improve the amount of other biographical information about him, but I'm not sure that is what is being asked for. Please, help me out here. Thanks Fer (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

OK it is fine with me to put information about Matt Thomas on the Model Mugging page, however as Model Mugging has splintered into many individual groups, some are not so fond of Matt, and will vandalize informaiton posted about him.. I thought that having a seprate page to talk about him might help that a bit. They all agree that Matt created it... but there are bad feelings. I think that most will accept me as a neutral poster, on this subject, but time will tell. Fer (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Kidpower

How should the links and redirects be fixed for Kidpower, KIDPOWER and Kidpower (organization) I think that the toy manufacurer should be moved to Kidpower (toy manufacturer) and the pages Kidpower and KIDPOWER should offer the choice between the two is that right? Fer (talk) 22:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

So I think you told me that it was OK to make the changes I am suggesting here right? Fer (talk) 00:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I also am not sure how to give specifics about an orgainizations such as Kidpower. There is lots of specific infomation (like number of students and chapters in other countries) in the Kidpower website, but can I use this as a reference, or can I only include things that have been published in third party publications? Again, thanks for helping me out here, I am new to wiki.. Fer (talk) 00:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

German school of fencing

Please stop removing this link from the Martial Arts by countries of origins list. Its an individual Art, from a specific place, created by a specific Master, and the article is of sufficient length. I'll keep putting it back on the list no matter how many times you remove it, so please save us both some time and stop removing it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.231.75 (talk) 04:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:Martial arts‎ & Template:Manav by country

Hello, I would like to discussion the inclusion, removal, name, and anything else in relation to the grappling arts of Pahlavani, Kurash, Koshti and the templates in question, the hope of avoiding any form of edit warring. The Scythian 17:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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Wang Ju-Rong and Family

assistance needed with "Helen Wu", "Flying Rainbow Fan", "Wang Ju-Rong", "Wang Zi-Ping" articles...added references and publications, very difficult to find information and very new to wikipedia...do not even know how to respond to deletion nomination...thanks in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtcraig (talk • contribs) 20:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

apologies ofr no signature on above message, re: helen wu et al. --Dtcraig (talk) 20:54, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

• Nate, do you think there is enough notability and references to support one article covering Wang Ju-Rong, Helen Wu and Rainbow Fan? jmcw (talk) 09:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

McDojo

My mistake. I was reading article history and think I hit the wrong button... or thought I was editing a current revision. V. Joe (talk) 15:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

One thing I might want to mention is "assume good faith." Simply put I made a mistake... and I'm not Ashida Kim is disguise. V. Joe (talk) 16:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

What's up?

How's it going Nate? Long time no seeUser5802 (talk) 09:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Yup, doing the same! User5802 (talk) 09:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Was there ever a final resolution on what to do about the Moo Duk Kwan Inc. 'fist logo' and all of the copyright notices being posted in the various articles? User5802 (talk) 11:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Got it thanks.User5802 (talk) 19:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Nate why'd you do the folling? Trying to clean up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jujutsu&diff=222833125&oldid=215256451 User5802 (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

SBS

If people cannot add refs despite warnings then data should be deleted. Its not poor form, its just that people are too lazy to source any refs (Archangel1 (talk) 11:03, 12 November 2008 (UTC)). Well done. This and many other military articles could do with the same attention and as I said, its not upto me to go sourcing ref's for articles as I have been doing so for a long time and feel thatit should be down to those people that add the original text onto the article. Most of these military articles are writen by airsofters, service people on a tea and toast break and wannabes. There are very few people on here that have an actual source knowledge. It makes difference what the text says and your point about the space program is pointless. Ref's are required otherwise the whole system breaks down on here. Refs are not only a source of verification but also used by a reader to look-up source martial for study or interest (Archangel1 (talk) 13:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)).

Big-boards

I replied to you on my own talk page :) Shii (tock) 22:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for the archiving link

Wasn't familiar with that practice, appreciate the info. User5802 (talk) 15:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

warning

Thanks, not many people will actually warn someone when they get close to violating the 3RR. Good thing there are editors like you who following the rules.--WillC 19:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

To tell you the truth I'm not sure either. He gets told not to do one thing and the goes ahead and does it. He never says anything. It makes you wonder. Then the posters he uploads with licenses get deleted, then he just re-uploads them. I don't think he understands. He has uploaded multiple posters without giving a license or a source. I try to help him out but he doesn't communicate so it is hard.--WillC 21:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page. StaticGull  Talk  17:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)