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A belated welcome! edit
Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, JSFarman. I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page, consult Wikipedia:Questions, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there.
Again, welcome! Shearonink (talk) 21:10, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Archives edit
22:05:59, 4 October 2017 review of submission by Rpsavory edit
{{Lafc|username=Rpsavory|ts=22:05:59, 4 October 2017|declined=Draft:Rhea_Scott
April editathons at Women in Red edit
January 2020 at Women in Red edit
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Carianne Marshall moved to draftspace edit
Draftifying my own article, not ready
Carianne Marshall moved to draftspace edit
Draftifying my own article, not ready
New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022 edit
Hello JSFarman,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
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Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023 edit
Hello JSFarman,
- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023 edit
Hello JSFarman,
Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.
You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.
Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
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LA Meetup: February 17, 2024 edit
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 Please join Wikimedians of Los Angeles on Saturday, February 17 from 12:00 to 4:00 pm for a Los Angeles and West Hollywood-themed edit-a-thon at the West Hollywood Library. (For the details and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/Los Angeles/February 2024.) We'll also be celebrating Wikipedia's 23rd birthday/Wikipedia Day. (There will be cake!) We hope to see you there! JSFarman via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC) | |
Request to have syntax errors fixed after mass message delivery edit
Hi there! In a recent mass message that you sent, there were multiple syntax errors (Linter errors, specifically, including obsolete tags and inline tags wrapping block content). Can you please visit Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks and ask the helpful editors there to apply these same fixes to all of the pages that the message was delivered to? And if you will be composing future messages from the boilerplate text that you used for this one, please make a note of these updates. I'll be happy to take a look at anything you have written before you send it out. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Jonesey95, thank you! I was actually just leaving you a message to ask what I did wrong. (I once sent out a mass message that was missing a closing bracket. That was fun.) I would be so psyched if you would take a look at future messages. I am not good at this. In case it wasn't obvious. Thank you beyond! JSFarman (talk) 22:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
Nile Rodgers edit
Hi! I found you by looking at the view history of the Nile Rodgers page, because I was admiring the writing! I have been involved in Wikipedia for quite some time and do organizing for Meta:Wikimedia LGBT+ and Queering Wikipedia 2023 recently. I will be in L.A. towards the end of Feb, and I'd love to meet up and discuss Wikipedia and writing if you are around. My email is dorothy@wmlgbt.org Hexatekin (talk) 21:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Pings edit
I know what you mean about pings and the yellow bar of super cringe. I'm usually like oh shit what have I done, lol. As for the draft, glad to know you are hyped about it. Sometimes I hesitate about pinging folks who I think can help because I don't want anyone to feel obligated. S0091 (talk) 18:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- S0091! I love that you went so far above and beyond when you reviewed the drafts. It is so unusual, and it's what we need to be doing to keep new editors from fleeing! Thank you for reminding me of that. I feel the same way about pinging other editors. Worse though is pinging another editor and being ignored. It's really discouraging.
- So good to (kinda) meet you! Julie JSFarman (talk) 19:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- My view on reviewing has changed over time and my overall editing has changed after I discovered I had access to the WP Library (a Wikipedia life changer!). I don't always help out drafts...sometimes I'm lazy but do on occasion especially for historical topics where it's clear the creator likely does not have access to better sources. There's actually at least a handful or so editors who are willing to do so: valereee for food topics, BeanieFan11 for sports, jengod and PigeonChichenFish for various, KylieTastic usually for FloridaArmy's African American politician drafts, WIR for women/under-represented groups and so on. When DGG was still alive he focused on academics, even going through the painful exercise of reviewing abandoned drafts coming up for G13 (miss him). I came across you and your fantastic User page sometime ago while reviewing and apparently tucked you away in my head. When I came across the The Central, I connected the two.
- Eh...it doesn't bother if I ping someone and they don't respond, nor if I leave a note on a WikiProject talk page that gets no traction. This is a volunteer effort and it should be mostly be enjoyable. If no one is into it, disappointing but that's fine. Also, I know I have been pinged and completely forgot because I was focused on something else at the time. Anyway, great to "wiki" meet you as well. S0091 (talk) 19:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- S0091! When I looked at your talk page, I was reminded of how difficult reviewing is. Way too many disgruntled people, way too many messages. Huge props to you for responding to so many (unkind) comments with kindness. I still review aticles now and then, and I patrol from time to time, but not to the extent that I used to. (I find patroling much more difficult than reviewing.)
- I am very psyched that you registered my existence! (One of the highlights of my experiences here was DGG asking me to weigh in on a music-related AfD; it was probably because he was tired of me asking him about academics. I miss him too.) I am familiar with all of the editors you mentioned, of course, but I didn't know jengod at all until she came to an editathon in December. She is brilliant. And she edits entirely on her cell.
- And yes! The Wikipedia Library is a game changer. I think I edited for about five years without knowing it existed. Now I use it all the time.
- I added the Central to our articles list for the edit-a-thon on Sunday. I hope we can find references. If we do, you will hear me celebrating from wherever you are! Julie JSFarman (talk) 03:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
I will very likely be at the Los Angeles meetup edit
I said I'd leave a message on your talk page, as it is very much likely I will be there this Saturday. I have never been at a Wikipedia meetup before, so I'm excited for this! ShticktatorTal (talk) 04:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fantastic!!! Last meetup we had was a blast. I am always a little harried at these things (because I am hella disorganized) but I am so psyched to meet you, ShticktatorTal. I feel like we are kindred spirits in at least a handful of ways! JSFarman (talk) 05:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you! edit
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Thank you for hosting the edit-a-thon in West Hollywood. The turnout was outstanding, and hopefully the new editors will becoming meaninful productive contributors in whatever endeavor they apply themselves on Wikipedia and elsewhere. It was great seeing you again. RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 11:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Women in Red March 2024 edit
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J.M.I. Recordings edit
I published this article recently - Draft:J.M.I. Recordings - and it was speedy deleted. I'm wondering if you might be able to review it this time around before I publish it again? Record labels seems a little tricky to have published sources where it is a primary subject, because most of the articles that discuss the label are discussing particular albums or artists the label has produced.. Hexatekin (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @Hexatekin: I'm curious why you wrote this draft. The subject is not notable, which is typical of book publishers, record labels, and other publishers of material. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Quoting from User:Jessiemay1984 on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Labels, "it is impossible to divorce a record label's press coverage from its artists, nor would it make sense to do so." The notability guidelines for record labels have not been fully agreed upon, although there are many in progress discussions, see: Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)/Archive 21#Proposed criteria for record labels. Labels are usually covered in press about artists, but the way the press works doesn't necessarily make them non-notable. Hexatekin (talk) 18:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I had asked the question of why you wrote the draft, which went unanswered. Wikipedia consensus has turned against subject-specific notability guidelines like WP:PORNBIO and WP:SOLDIER so conversations along those lines accomplish nothing. I thought you came here asking for guidance, not argument. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Hexatekin and hello Chris!
- As Chris wrote, you should adhere to the notability criteria for companies. And -- as you noted -- labels don't get a lot of coverage. Particularly jazz labels (and artists).
- If the article was speedily deleted, it means (in all likelihood) that an editor assessed the subject as lacking notability and an administrator agreed with their assessment and deleted the article. The subject of an article has to meet the inclusion criteria: independent, reliable sources that provide extensive coverage specifically via independent, reliable sources. Based on the references used, the company doesn't yet meet notability. (I will happily review any article of yours if you ping me, but in this case, I would decline it.)
- And Chris! Hexatekin came to an edit-a-thon in LA two weeks ago. They do not have a COI. JSFarman (talk) 19:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I had asked the question of why you wrote the draft, which went unanswered. Wikipedia consensus has turned against subject-specific notability guidelines like WP:PORNBIO and WP:SOLDIER so conversations along those lines accomplish nothing. I thought you came here asking for guidance, not argument. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Quoting from User:Jessiemay1984 on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Labels, "it is impossible to divorce a record label's press coverage from its artists, nor would it make sense to do so." The notability guidelines for record labels have not been fully agreed upon, although there are many in progress discussions, see: Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)/Archive 21#Proposed criteria for record labels. Labels are usually covered in press about artists, but the way the press works doesn't necessarily make them non-notable. Hexatekin (talk) 18:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
2024 Angel City Edit-a-thon edit
Hi! I notice you RSVP'd to my event this weekend. Would you be willing to lead a short tutorial for participants who are new to Wikipedia? I've done some editing sporadically over the years but would love some support from a real Wikipedian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/Angel_City_FC_WoSo_Edit-a-thon_2024 Kabest (talk) 22:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Kabest, I was just about to remove my name from the RSVP list. I have a prosthodontist appt that was just scheduled for exactly the same time as the edit-a-thon. (This procedure wraps up three years of dental hell!.) I'm so sorry! I would love to help.
- I will reach out to some other folks to see if anyone else is available. There are also some powerpoint presentations (so uncool) floating around that will walk people through the editing process if you are up for leading the conversation. (Gotta figure out where they're stored.) JSFarman (talk) 23:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Great news! Blervis is experienced and will help! He will get in touch. Woo hoo!!JSFarman (talk) 00:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024 edit
Hello JSFarman,
Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.
Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.
Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.
It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!
2023 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi @JSFarman. Take a look for which one you prefer at the "Release history" table: "Distributor", "Licensee", "Marketer" or "Promoter". 2001:D08:2910:4C95:17C3:914F:D77C:7595 (talk) 04:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- 2001:D08:2910:4C95:17C3:914F:D77C:7595 (talk), Hello! Sorry for the delayed response, and thanks for asking. I tried to respond to the conversation several times but I was so perplexed by the idea of using "marketer" or "promoter" that I lost my ability to be rational. I will attempt it again today. It is so odd. JSFarman (talk) 15:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
The Smubbs & You edit
Hi! Thank you for looking over and commenting on my AfC submission for The Smubbs. As of right now, I'm a little bit confused on how to satisfy your request — as far as I can tell, every multi-paged source has an attached page number leading to the mention of the article's subject. Instead, is there some way to have the source's url link to a specific page on a pdf?
Hope I'm doing this right! Chroikey (talk) 00:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Always precious edit
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, I can't believe it's been ten years. I probably say this every year, but finding your message on my talk page in 2013 -- surrounded otherwise by notices about orphaned unfree files and disambiguation errors -- was one of the reasons I kept editing. It was the first time I felt like I could be part of Wikipedia. Thank you for the encouragement and for everything you do. JSFarman (talk) 00:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, just thank you! You have perhaps no idea how much encouragement such comments mean for me. 10, however is the last time - I didn't want to make the sapphires any larger ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive edit
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Sam's Club update edit
Hi JSFarman, in the past you had helped with some changes related to the CEO of Walmart International on the Walmart article I had requested. I made some similar requests on the Sam's Club Talk page and I was hoping you might take a look. I'd really appreciate it! Cheers TJ at Walmart (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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