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No problem

You got it right. Don't worry about it. The Ungovernable Force 22:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on anarchism

Thanks for your comments on the talk:anarchism page. They were very nicely and civilly put. However you stated that anarchism is communism.

anarchism is anarchism and communism is communism. Similarly stars are stars and planets are planets. Animals are animals and plants are plants, (despite the modern geneticists attempts at losing this dictincion.)

There is good and bad, despite the trend to pretend that this dictinction does not exist. It does.

Love is not hate. War is not peace. Negative liberty means nothing and positive discrimination even less. I'll admit that I don't understand newspeak and will not make any attempt at trying to, as I find it injurious to thought. (I like thought.)

Anarchism is anarchism. Communism is communism. Freedom is freedom. Now if you said anarchism is freedom, that I would agree with, as in an anarchic state there would be freedom.

Hope you didn't take offense at what I just said here. What I just said here is what I just said here. Nothing more or less. peace, Shannon^{duck talk} 16:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Anarchism is a form of communism by virtue of the fact that anarchism advocates non-hierarchical relations in all matters, including economic matters. Which is to say, anarchists implicitly and explicitly reject economic inequality and hence anarchists are also communists. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 21:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Awesome!

You're a firebreather? Cool. The Ungovernable Force 00:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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Martin Emond merge

As I say on the talk page - the merge isn't controversial and should be done as soon as possible I just quibble with the direction (for the reasons listed). If there are no good arguements why the second entry should be the one to be merged into then I'd suggest merging it into the original article. {Emperor 03:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC))

err?

To do list: List of inedible foods. Is it just me, or is that a contradiction. What exactly qualifies as inedible food, McDonalds? Ungovernable Force^{The Wiki Kitchen!} 04:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I get it. Ungovernable Force^{The Wiki Kitchen!} 05:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Mithraism

Hey Aelfinn,

Thanks for editing the Mithraism page. But a lot of your edits are really to do with Christianity, rather than Mithras, and I'm not sure that they should be in the Mithraism article. Would it cause you deep pain if I redited your comments with this in mind? Roger Pearse 13:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for your kind message! I'll try to tread softly, and keep what I can. Feel free to alter it if you feel I missed something important. Roger Pearse 15:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Pittsburgh rare

Thansk for contributing Pittsburgh rare. However it ends mid-sentence. Is there something more to say or should we delete "Place the steak on a grate so that..."? Cheers, -Will Beback 21:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

There's now a question about the oven temperature required to achieve this degree of doneness. 2300 F may be too incredibe. Your participation would be appreciated.-Will Beback 11:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Hoover (seal)

I could see this page up for deletion for notability or citation, but nonsense? Jeesh. Somebody's a bit triggerhappy. Aelffin 19:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I've expanded and sourced the article since your comment. Removing speedy deletion was a sound decision. Surely a talking seal with an obituary in The Boston Globe is notable. Right? Mgm|^(talk) 10:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Brine pools

I don't know if you're a veteran user or a newbie, but I found this in your contributions.

03:13, November 17, 2006 (hist) (diff) Brine Pool (Redirecting to Brine pools)

Please remember that titles should be singular whenever possible (Wikipedia:Naming conventions), so this article (and all the related links) should've been pointed to brine pool rather than brine pools. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

hi

hi nshan13 is cool

Article for Deletion Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League

You have contributed as an editor to the article above. It is being considered for deletion. You can comment on this here.

Also it would be helpful if someone could provide a cite to the Minneapolis Star Tribune or other major media cite for the 1988 "bowling ball" incident discussed in the article.Edivorce 03:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Apology

I made comments RABL and L&R that users should not place template tags on article without discussing their reasons. I have found that users seeking deletion often place such tags to make an article appear "troubled." When I looked at the history I found that you placed the tag. Based on your comments this can only be seen as seeking honest assistance in improving the article. I should have looked at the history first. Sorry. Edivorce 04:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Heh.

The comment you posted here made me laugh. 31337 03:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Mon Calamari.

I never said that Omarion101's name was self-promotion for a celebrity: it's actually possible impersonation of a celebrity. As for my own name, I never said on my user page that it was from Star Wars, I said that it was from a fictional planet. I am not promoting squid, food, or Star Wars with my user name. I also think that "Acalamari" sounds good as a name. Acalamari 03:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

What?

I simply did what HignInBC did. It was not vandalism. If HighInBc had not removed it several times first, then I wouldn't have removed it at all. Acalamari 17:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I will leave a message for HighInBC as well. If it were a personal attack, then you could certainly remove it. But if you read it, you will see that the user did not attack User:George Carlin. Aelffin 17:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Wêr Bisto

Citing sources for transhumanist articles at risk of deletion

Hello Aelffin, could you please help us in finding independent sources for the subject of the following articles to avoid deletion:

1. Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies
2. George Dvorsky and Betterhumans
3. James Hughes

--Loremaster 15:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

British English

Hmmm..I can't understand why Jack Lumber has labelled this... "Although the language as spoken in Britain has also gradually changed over the centuries, British English still remains closest to the 'original' dialect that the emigrees themselves spoke before they left Britain". ...as a false claim. I am a Brit, and I speak fairly standard working-class 'British English' - not the sanitised 'BBC' version that you are used to hearing in our exported media. If you could hear me, your 'American ear' would think that I sounded like something that had just stepped-off the ship from Bristol in the 1700s :-) I'll leave it up to the two of you... ChrisRed 08:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Fairy Nuff. I think that you are right about Northumbria, I would also include the working-class Devon/Cornwall and Black Country/Birmingham accents in a list of dialects that have changed the least since colonial days. I thinks it's incorrect to judge 'British English' by using 'BBC' English as a datum, as very few of us actually talk like that, unless we do our usual trick of shifting into 'neutral' English to be understood when talking to foreigners. This was always the accent of the educated and the affluent, whereas most settlers were generally 'working-class misfits', agricultural workers, or even (especially Australia) members of the underclass who were transported against their will. Perhaps as a limey I am too close to see the real picture, and you are better placed with your objective 'American Ear' :-)

All the best, and toodle-pip from jolly old blighty. ChrisRed 15:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of German-Russian pidgin

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Translation

Erzgebirgisch: You should post your translation request at Wikipedia:Translation, even if you want to do the bulk of the work yourself, there you have a better chance of meeting people to help you.  Andreas  ^(T) 21:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Iceland

Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 15:16, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Erzgebirgisch

I have created Erzgebirgisch/Translation_workspace and started the first section. It is quite a long page, so I would rather do it step by stepJasy jatere 09:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Looking over the section again I realize that there are some typos and the like, but hey, I hadn't proofread it, so it's still quite OK. The article is definitely long enough to get drowned in it. Which parts of it have you been working on? I propose to do a rough translation of the content first and wikify it later.

Tilgung should be 'apocope'. 'Elision' would be Verschleifung, and IIRC only takes place between words, but not inside. So French l'eau is elision but p'tit is apocope. Jasy jatere 16:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I replied on the talk page Jasy jatere 17:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The error is easiliy overlooked. I had to read the sentence several times myself to see what was wrong. I am not familiar with the dialect, I just saw the page on the translation required page. There might be recordings available on the linked webpages.

there are some linked sound samples on the german wp Jasy jatere 11:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Arthur Jensen

I removed the quotes along with vandalism, didn't realize I had. Zazaban 21:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

We seem to share similar interests.

Been looking over your userboxes and we seem to be interested in similar things. (Don't look at my userpage, it's waaay outdated!) Zazaban 23:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

It's updated now. Zazaban 23:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Erzgebirgisch

Hi Aelffin, I won't have much time to work on the Erzgebirgisch translation during summer, but the translation part seems pretty much finshed. Copy-editing still needs to be done, but I think that knowledge of German is not required for that. So, shall we move Erzgebirgisch/Translation_workspace to Erzgebirgisch? Jasy jatere 13:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries

Hello. Please be courteous to other editors and use edit summaries when updating articles. The Mathbot tool shows your usage of edit summaries to be extremely low:

Edit summary usage for Aelffin: 13% for major edits and 50% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 10 minor edits in the article namespace.

Using edit summaries helps other editors quickly understand your edits, which is especially useful when you make changes to articles that are on others' watchlists. Thanks and happy editing! --Kralizec! (talk) 03:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

COSI Columbus

In reply to your message [1], I did listen to the NPR story when the reference was added to the article. However, I did not hear any specific references to either COSI, Christy Varner and Nathan Bellomy the trainers, or Doris and Edelia the rats. Sorry if I made a mistake; once I am no longer at work (where streaming audio is block), I can go back and re-listen to the story (like most NPR stories, it was quite good). --Kralizec! (talk) 17:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Georgia

While perusing your userpage, I noticed that you have Image:Flag of Georgia.svg listed under U.S. States I've Visited, however I suspect you actually meant to use Image:Flag of Georgia (U.S. state).svg. I made the exact same mistake myself.  :-) --Kralizec! (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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TfD nomination of Template:Aelffin/Sandbox

Template:Aelffin/Sandbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.--Old Hoss 20:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

In future, please keep all of your sandboxes in a user subpage, as the template namespace is reserved for templates, and not user sandboxes. –sebi 01:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Simple translation request

I noticed you were listed as a German-English translator. Would you be willing to translate this table?--Max Talk (+) 07:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiThanks

Thank you so much.--Max Talk (+) 20:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Double the phat.jpg

I don't understand the copyright tags on this image. If it's public domain, we don't need special permission to use it. Can you clarify how you know the image is public domain? — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

If the cover is released into the public domain, then it isn't fair use, it's free content. But I don't see a copyright statement on the website. Maybe I missed it? Do you have an email from the webmaster saying the images are public domain? — Carl (CBM · talk) 04:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

That image ("copyright violation for the nation") is hardly an explicit copyright statement for the site. If the image is free, there is no need for the fair use tags. At the moment, the image license tags there don't make sense. — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Just putting that symbol on their website somewhere doesn't give a clear copyright statement - it looks to me like it's just a sign that they sympathize with that position.

Public domain and "free use" are the same. The issue is that the image has fair use tags on it. Fair use is a provision in copyright law that is only applicable when you don't already have permission to use the image. If the image is public domain, fair use is no longer relevant, so the image shouldn't have fair use or "non-free" tags if it is a free image. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree the image is a statement of principle, but I don't see it as a clear copyright release for the info. Anyway, I'll write to the site and clarify the license directly with them. Thanks, — Carl (CBM · talk) 17:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Here's the permission:

At 06:22 AM 8/27/2007, you wrote:


Hey Mark, some Wikipedia editors are getting pissy about image copyrights. Would you mind providing a quote I could put on the images I uploaded from your website? Something to the effect of “I’m Mark Gunderson and I approve this image.” Thanks!
 
Have fun at the burn! (jealous)
 
-Nathan

     Hi Nathan; you have the permission of myself (TradeMark Gunderson) and The Evolution Control Committee to use materials of all kinds (including images, audio, video, and text) in any way you see fit.  Such as Wikipedia.  Thanks!

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Aelffin 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting the email; it makes it easier to see what has actually been released. The email does not say that these images are public domain or released under a free license. It is only a grant for use by Wikipedia. We classify such images as nonfree because they cannot be used by others. What we need is either an explicit release of the images into public domain, or a release under a license we consider free, such as GFDL or CC-BY-SA. — Carl (CBM · talk) 02:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, as I said, Wikipedia doesn't consider that sort of release to be a free license. I'll email him sometime to see if the pictures are under a free license. If they aren't, we won't be able to use those pictures on the discography. Lists of nonfree album covers aren't permitted. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Korean War

Read the talk page why the reference was deleted. John Smith's 22:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Just stopping by to solicit your input for the new section I just addded on casualties in the Korean War article. If you could give me an idea of what other information you'd like to see there, or any other suggestions or critiques, it would be most useful. Thanks for helping to get the article in better shape. wbfergus ^Talk 18:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

hi and thanks for your comments on the discussion pages of the korean war article. it is nice to see others noticing how simply being ignorant of other views does not equal being neutral. now if i can just get you and other KW folks to see how NPOV is the opiate of the wikimasses... :) Hongkyongnae 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Love and Rage/RABL merger

Might I suggest that this merge is never going to happen, and that it would be best if the merge tags were now removed? You placed the tags back in January, and nothing has happened since. I would say the proposal is moribund. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 17:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. As to your question, yes, I have published a number of things in different places, but all under pseudonyms (which I never reveal). Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 04:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Bollywood

Hello friend!

I kindly ask you to stop filling up the See also section in the above-mentioned page with references and Wikilinks to other film industries in India and the world. It has no rerlation to Bollywood at all. The same applies to other pages too. Thanks, Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Only one request: please don't leave me messages on my user page, but on my talk page. Shahid • ^Talk2me 20:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Tuva Workgroup

As a past contributor to a Tuva-related article, I was wondering if you would be interested in forming a Tuva workgroup of Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia with me? If enough people show interest, I'll go ahead and create the workgroup. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 18:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Social insertion

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The article still needs clarification. It is impossible for someone not familiar with anarcho-left issues to understand just what "social insertionists" advocate from reading this article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC) (IWW G.O.B. Milwaukee)

Minor correction requested on Anarchism discussion

I think you meant to attribute "a political philosophy encompassing theories and attitudes which reject compulsory government ..." to Sunray, since you are quoting him.[[2]] You may have mistakenly attributed it to "Doright." Thanks. Doright (talk) 21:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Franziska Drohsel

A tag has been placed on Franziska Drohsel, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a foreign language article that was copied and pasted from another Wikimedia project, or was transwikied out to another project. Please see Wikipedia:Translation to learn about requests for, and coordination of, translations from foreign-language Wikipedias into English.

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The content may be worthwhile; but it must be in English, to appear in the English-language Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

That second deletion was a button-clicking accident; the translated Franziska Drohsel has been restored! --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Aber natürlich! --Orange Mike | Talk 18:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Reduction in scope of {{Template:Forms of government}}

Since you have been active on the template talk page before, I thought I would let you know that I have initiated a debate to reduce the size of {{Template:Forms of government}} here. Thanks, --Lmbstl (talk) 05:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008 edition of the WikiProject Germany newsletter

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Mini-sandbox

Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

howdy

sorry to pop up out of the blue like this, but i was wondering if i could just ask you a favor - the article on Naomi Klein is pretty regularly besieged by pov editors attempting to violate WP:undue by focusing disproportionately on the minority of criticisms of her recent book while failing to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of praise. whatever one's personal feelings on the book, it's pretty inarguable that it was well reviewed by most people, which wikipedia should naturally reflect. sorry to ask you, but i've been dealing with the same people for months, and it gets pretty boring reverting the same silliness over and over. i got into a thing like this over on the ralph nader page a few months ago with a user who was later found to be a sock puppet and blocked. i'll be posting this message on a few other user pages just in case you've gots your plate full or just plum don't wanna do it. thanks Marshmellowgoggles (talk) 22:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

To all members of the Anarchist Task Force - about improvement of the AI-Wiki-page

I have just joined the Anarchist Task Force, and I have had some problems with publishing of my Anarchist International Wikipedia page, see my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anna_Quist/Anarchist_International for the present version/proposal. This page needs improvements to reach Wiki-consensus, and this should be a somewhat collective project to avoid a "COI"-template. As I am new to editing here on Wikipedia I need help with the page, I hope for your cooperation with this improvement. As an introduction to this cooperation, feel free to read this note on my talk page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anna_Quist#Message_to_all_anarchists_on_Wikipedia_-_Anarchy_is_cooperation_without_coercion.2Fdestruction.2Fdeletion_-_about_the_deletion_of_the_AI-Wiki-page_and_cooperation_to_achieve_an_updated_AI-page_with_general_Wiki-consent .

Any contribution, matter of fact criticism, to give input and advice, or even contribute to new sections, will be helpful, and is much appreciated. Please join in the project...

(Anna Quist (talk) 17:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC))

Sources and anarchism: your ideas requested

Yo Nathan, I know you've put a lot of effort at Talk:Anarchism into the question of reliable sources and anarchism-related content. I'm trying to establish a guideline with the Anarchism task force about how to source anarchism articles. The rough draft of the guideline is here; we've covered most of the basics, except for how to treat mainstream sources. I remember you being vocal on this point; I wonder if you'd care to write that section of the guideline? In any case, any input or ideas you have on the project would be most appreciated. Solidarity, Skomorokh 14:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Heya, I've noticed you've been contributing to articles similar to mine, i.e. related to activist/anarchist people. My article on Bruno Masse is threatened of deletion, could you please vote to keep it? You can vote [| here]. In solidarity! Lkeryl (talk) 18:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

StudentLoanJustice.org

Hello, if possible, can you please add footnotes to the article you created? The sources are good but they are presented better as footnotes. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. Thanks --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, someone else did it! Nice article. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

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Andean Information Network

Your references do not meet Wikipedia guidelines. Please help improve your article by fixing them. See WP:Citing Sources for help. ttonyb1 (talk) 13:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Which references do you disagree with, and which clauses of WP:RS do they violate? Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

It is not the reference itself that is in question, only the format. Take a look at the references for Playland (San Francisco). Thanks ttonyb1 (talk) 13:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

That kind of formatting is excessively "codey". I prefer more transparent coding so as to avoid pushing new editors away from Wikipedia. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 13:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Suit yourself, it is not really codey, but rather it follows the format suggested by The Chicago Manual of Style. ttonyb1 (talk) 13:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, the result is consistent with the Chicago Manual, but the coding is messy by most journalistic standards. I'm a fan of WYSIWYG. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 13:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Not really, section 17.237in TCMoS discusses the format of online references. This all seems to be a moot point - someone has completed the references for your article. Enjoy...ttonyb1 (talk) 13:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Regardless, it's ugly and it keeps people from participating in Wikipedia. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 13:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

United States presidential election, 2016 deletion

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Image licencing

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Category:Articles needing translation from Vietnamese Wikipedia

We need your help to translate from Vietnamese!! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 16:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Labor / Worker's Rights project

I recently drafted a proposal for a worker's rights / labor issues WikiProject ... I thought you might be interested, since you are working on the Anarchism project ...

Cheers! Jrtayloriv (talk) 04:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Jet Zoon

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Terms

The proper terms are the dicotomy between "evolucionary" and "revolucionary". A source: [3] p. 4 Anyway article about insurrecionary anarchism is a disaster (if it is not original source), and is not clear the notorius differences between clasical revolutionary movement, the anarcho-terrorist one of 1890, and the posmodernist one of 1990s.--Nihilo 01 (talk) 16:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Mini-sandbox

Lineage of anarchism in Columbus, Ohio.... (curiously enough, AFL started in Columbus in 1886, only to have one of its distant descendants return as Columbus ARA.

Owensism(ca.1810)>The Harmony Society(1814)>Short-time movement(ca.1817)>National Labor Union(1866)>Knights of Labor(1872)>Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions(1881)>AFL(1886)>Conference for Progressive Labor Action(1929)>American Workes Party(1934)>Workers Party(1940)>Independent Socialist League(1949)>International Socialists(1964)>RSL(1973)>RABL(1987)>ARA(1987)>Love and Rage Network(1989)>Arawak City Autonomous Collective+Ramlow Infoshop+Black Heart Anarchist Collective+Columbus ARA(ca.1994)>Love and Rage Revolutionary Anarchist Federation(1993)>RAAN(2002)>CAAM+RAIN>Arawak City Brain Trust(2004)>Arawak City Indymedia+Anti-War Columbus(2005)>Columbus SDS(2006)>Subvertical Action Netwerk+Spore-Print Infoshop(2008) Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Related Groups: FRAC, RAIN, Autonomous Zone, Chicago Action Medics People: 1990s... "hpwombat", "Chris", "wisniewski", "Robbt", Jim MacNamara (Founder of Columbus ARA's COPWatch project).

Radler

Hi Aelffin. I've restored the redirect of Radler as it is the German term for Shandy. It is appropriate and acceptable to discuss the German culture regarding Biermischgetränke, of which Radler is one example, within the Shandy article, however the general approach on Wikipedia is not to create separate articles for each different language variation of a single topic. Radler / Shandy is a beer mixed with a carbonated soft drink - the actual beer, soft drink and proportions do vary, but the concept is the same. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 18:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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Conflicted licensing on image File:Whipped cream.jpg

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Changed tag, and have asked an admin for a second opinion.

Have you forwarded the permission obtained to the OTRS system per WP:COPYREQ? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!

Hello, I hope you're doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion. I've just read your profile and you seem a very learned person and interested in minorities and small languages so maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm part of an association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this hasn't been approved up to that moment since Catalan has no state... We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this on your first page: Wikimedia CAT. Thanks again, wishing you a great summer, take care! Capsot (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your support! Capsot (talk) 15:33, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you.

Vyeh (talk) 01:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

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Conflicted licensing on image File:Double the phat.jpg

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• Aelffin, if you still have the original email, perhaps you could forward it to permissions-en@wikipedia.org so that we can add a verifying OTRS ticket to the image? If the file moves to Commons this would probably avoid any other questions being raised. If there were other images that you uploaded relating to this copyright release the same ticket number could then be applied by an OTRS volunteer to all of them. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 16:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The contents of the email exchange are posted on the images' pages, along with Mr. Gunderson's address. As I've had to bug him about this issue several times, I hesitate to do so again. Feel free to take the initiative; I'm sure he'd be happy to clarify any copyright issues with you or any other Wikipedia representative. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 16:55, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, when uploading an album cover, one is not given the option of choosing public domain. Thus, this issue will persist until Wikipedia upload procedures are ammended. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 16:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

If you forward a previous email to permissions-en@wikipedia.org then there would be no need to bug Mr Gunderson for a repeated statement. At the moment there is no easy way of verifying the text pasted on the image page and an OTRS ticket (based on verifying the email file original headers) would permanently resolve that. Fæ (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds great. Since you seem to understand the process better than I, feel free to take the initiative. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 17:14, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

As an OTRS volunteer I do understand the process. I'll keep the page on my watchlist and if it gets moved to Commons I shall mark it as a possibly unfree file in order to ensure appropriate action one way or other (Commons tends to require higher standards of copyright verification than Wikipedia). As I do not have an original email and OTRS volunteers are too busy to speculatively write to potential copyright holders this seems the simplest course of action. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 17:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Fae, it's funny that you're too busy to write a quick email but not too busy to harrass editors who are trying to build Wikipedia rather than tear it apart. Whatever floats your boat. *shrug* Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 17:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Look, I'm not trying to be overly prickly, but I feel like I've put a reasonable amount of effort into properly indicating the license information of these images, and if after two or three exchanges, I'm still unable to grasp the process then either I'm a complete moron, or the process is too opaque to be useful. Either way, I doubt I'm the only one who finds this "delete first, ask questions later" approach to be obnoxious, pedantic, and lazy. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 17:42, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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Research survey invitation

Greetings Aelffin-

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mario Masic

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Dmol (talk) 00:48, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Mario Masic for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Moveable Museum

Actually, just a PROD. ViniTheHat (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Moveable Museum

The article The Moveable Museum has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This is a service provided by the AMNH, and is not overly significant in its own right. This info could be (and to an extent is) included in AMNH's article under "educational outreach."

This article contains too much detail for what is essentially a non-notable, canceled program of a larger, notable institution.

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But, I guess you can discuss it at the AfD. ViniTheHat (talk) 14:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

It is a minor offering compared to many of the permanent exhibits in the AMNH, which do not have their own articles on Wikipedia, let alone a mention on AMNH's wiki article. It is a service of the Museum's education department, not in any way a major part of the greater museum's collections or research. Simply, it's not it's own entity.

The wiki-link to "Gottesman Center for Science Teaching and Learning" which just redirects to the AMNH article, which does not even have a section on its gottesman center, something so improbably looked up at all, makes this look like a bit of a vanity page created by someone in the museum's education department.

The majority of the sources for this article are either published by the museum, or are regarding specific events, visits by the moveable to communities in local papers, or municipal education dept literature also describing specific events. I can not find any articles about the MM in a de facto NYC news source, say, the Times. ViniTheHat (talk) 14:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Come hang out with us on the internetz!

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German translation

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Hello, there's no need to deal with this. The Emperor's New Spy has been asking quite a lot of translators and Bermicourt was the fastest to create the article. De728631 (talk) 21:11, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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Article for Review:Diversity of Tactics

Hi Aelffin, I'm looking for folks to review an article I just submitted. I saw your name on the Cindy Milstein page and thought you might be interested. Hope you like it. Best,GPRamirez5 (talk) 22:31, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Christ the King Sausage Fest for deletion

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Language-population update project

Hi. The 18th edition of Ethnologue just came out, and if we divide up our language articles among us, it won't take long to update them. I would appreciate it if you could help out, even if it's just a few articles (5,000 articles is a lot for just me), but I won't be insulted if you delete this request.

A largely complete list of articles to be updated is at Category:Language articles citing Ethnologue 17. The priority articles are in Category:Language articles with old Ethnologue 17 speaker data. These are the 10% that have population figures at least 25 years old.

Probably 90% of the time, Ethnologue has not changed their figures between the 17th and 18th editions, so all we need to do is change "e17" to "e18" in the reference (ref) field of the language info box. That will change the citation for the artcle to the current edition. Please put the data in the proper fields, or the info box will flag it as needing editorial review. The other relevant fields are "speakers" (the number of native speakers in all countries), "date" (the date of the reference or census that Ethnologue uses, not the date of Ethnologue!), and sometimes "speakers2". Our convention has been to enter e.g. "1990 census" when a census is used, as other data can be much older than the publication date. Sometimes a citation elsewhere in the article depends on the e17 entry, in which case you will need to change "name=e17" to "name=e18" in the reference tag (assuming the 18th edition still supports the cited claim).

Remember, we want the *total* number of native speakers, which is often not the first figure given by Ethnologue. Sometimes the data is too incompatible to add together (e.g. a figure from the 1950s for one country, and a figure from 2006 for another), in which case it should be presented that way. That's one use for the "speakers2" field. If you're not sure, just ask, or skip that article.

Data should not be displayed with more than two, or at most three, significant figures. Sometimes it should be rounded off to just one significant figure, e.g. when some of the component data used by Ethnologue has been approximated with one figure (200,000, 3 million, etc.) and the other data has greater precision. For example, a figure of 200,000 for one country and 4,230 for another is really just 200,000 in total, as the 4,230 is within the margin of rounding off in the 200,000. If you want to retain the spurious precision of the number in Ethnologue, you might want to use the {{sigfig}} template. (First parameter in this template is for the data, second is for the number of figures to round it off to.)

Dates will often need to be a range of all the country data in the Ethnologue article. When entering the date range, I often ignore dates from countries that have only a few percent of the population, as often 10% or so of the population isn't even separately listed by Ethnologue and so is undated anyway.

If Ethnologue does not provide a date for the bulk of the population, just enter "no date" in the date field. But if the population figure is undated, and hasn't changed between the 17th & 18th editions of Ethnologue, please leave the ref field set to "e17", and maybe add a comment to keep it so that other editors don't change it. In cases like this, the edition of Ethnologue that the data first appeared in may be our only indication of how old it is. We still cite the 14th edition in a couple dozen articles, so our readers can see that the data is getting old.

The articles in the categories linked above are over 90% of the job. There are probably also articles that do not currently cite Ethnologue, but which we might want to update with the 18th edition. I'll need to generate another category to capture those, probably after most of the Ethnologue 17 citations are taken care of.

Jump in at the WP:LANG talk page if you have any comments or concerns. Thanks for any help you can give!

— kwami (talk) 02:46, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ohio Valley Filk Fest

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A tag has been placed on Ohio Valley Filk Fest requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Nomination of Ohio Valley Filk Fest for deletion

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Small country syndrome

Adding the the hangon tag merely lists it for speedier deletion. What you need to do is fix the article by expansion, adding content that will use the references, and writing the references out in full. Try to use as wide a variety of source s as possible. I've added an "underconstruction" tag, that should give you a few days. DGG ( talk ) 02:09, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mirjam Timmer

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Hello. A tag has been placed on Mirjam Timmer requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Can you help verify translations of articles from German

Hello Aelffin,

Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from German to English Wikipedia?

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This would involve evaluating a translated article on the English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original German article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:

There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including German , using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from German. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.

If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:

1. Disarmament of the German Jews
2. Dismas Hataš

All you have to do, is compare the English article to the German article, and assess them "Pass" or "Fail" (the {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} templates may be useful here). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then assessing it, that's even better, but it isn't required.) Also please note that we are assessing accuracy not completeness, so if the English article is much shorter that is okay, as long as whatever has been translated so far is factually accurate.

If you can help, please {{ping}} me here to let me know. You can add your pass/fails above, right next to each link, or you may indicate your results below. Thanks! Mathglot (talk) 06:30, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Th Long Depression listed at Redirects for discussion

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Proposed deletion of File:Backtest.jpg

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Proposed deletion of Palenque Norte

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Nomination of Mock Spanish for deletion

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