Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-05-29/Technology report
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Bilorv in topic Discuss this story
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The new video player is no small thing. It makes embedding Wikimedia-hosted media outside our wiki-centric ecosystem so much more reliable and, as noted on the project page, it now works on mobile devices. Over a decade since rectangular slates of glass have become the most popular way folks access the internet. That's huge! Ckoerner (talk) 18:45, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- It does not seem to support TimedText subtitles, though, like the old player did. Clicking the CC button allows you to go to the captions page to edit them, but I cannot see how you are supposed to just be able to view them. Daniel Case (talk) 03:24, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: for me they work on both desktop and mobile: there's a "CC" button in the bottom bar that you can hover over and change to the desired language. In the case of audio without video, though, I'd like captions to come up automatically—to a language that can be specified in wikicode but defaults to the language of the wiki. — Bilorv (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- All I see when I hover over it is "create captions". I click that and it takes me to Commons where I can choose from the caption files. (As for defaulting to the language of the wiki, that assumes that subtitles are available in that language) Daniel Case (talk) 17:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- What file are you looking at? The one I picked as an example, the audio file at The 1975 (2019 song), is hosted on en.wiki (NFCC) so maybe there's a difference in display. (As for my default suggestion, if there's no captions in that language then you'd obviously have to choose different behaviour, be it showing the first language in which captions were created, or hiding captions.) — Bilorv (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: Timedtext captions don't work for me either. I tried File:The 1975 (2019 song).ogg (local file) and File:Bezoek Britse oorlogsbodem-518039.ogv (Commons file). Both have english captions, but the player shows only "create captions" option. Monobook skin, Firefox 101. MKFI (talk) 09:52, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @MKFI: very curious. Something has changed for me between 4 June and today, because I'm now seeing the same thing you are, with no captions. Moreover, it was working for me on both desktop (Firefox) and mobile (Safari), and now works on neither! Did the video player change happen simultaneously on all user accounts? Perhaps it's my beta/preference settings or A/B testing? — Bilorv (talk) 18:25, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: Timedtext captions don't work for me either. I tried File:The 1975 (2019 song).ogg (local file) and File:Bezoek Britse oorlogsbodem-518039.ogv (Commons file). Both have english captions, but the player shows only "create captions" option. Monobook skin, Firefox 101. MKFI (talk) 09:52, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Bilorv, Daniel Case, and MKFI: The captions were temporarily broken, but they should be working again now. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 07:53, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- What file are you looking at? The one I picked as an example, the audio file at The 1975 (2019 song), is hosted on en.wiki (NFCC) so maybe there's a difference in display. (As for my default suggestion, if there's no captions in that language then you'd obviously have to choose different behaviour, be it showing the first language in which captions were created, or hiding captions.) — Bilorv (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- All I see when I hover over it is "create captions". I click that and it takes me to Commons where I can choose from the caption files. (As for defaulting to the language of the wiki, that assumes that subtitles are available in that language) Daniel Case (talk) 17:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: for me they work on both desktop and mobile: there's a "CC" button in the bottom bar that you can hover over and change to the desired language. In the case of audio without video, though, I'd like captions to come up automatically—to a language that can be specified in wikicode but defaults to the language of the wiki. — Bilorv (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)