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Lega Pro squad list

numbers of clubs were not updated for years. I had updated the following clubs to 2010-11 squad:

Prima Divisione

• F.C. Esperia Viareggio
• A.C. Lumezzane

The following clubs were seems ok

• Calcio Como
• A.C. Monza Brianza 1912
• U.S. Alessandria Calcio 1912
• S.S. Barletta Calcio

Other club seems not ok. To me i suggested remove the squad list section until someone had time to updated to 2011-12 squad in September, as more of them were 2009-10 squad. Matthew_hk tc 14:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Parma F.C.

Hello there. As you may know, I have carried out an extensive improvement of the quality of the main Parma article and others related to it. However, there is one very important aspect of the articles that is troubling me. As I'm sure some of you know, Parma were formed in the late '60s and technically have no relation to the 1913 Verdi Foot Ball Club. Despite this, the club claim attahement to the club founded in 1913. Unfortunately, I can find no source which says what I believe (and what those in Italy generally believe) to be the truth. As a result, the some of the Parma articles currently refer to a falsehood because I cannot very well write against the only source I can find on the subject. Is anyone aware of any source that might prove my point? Cheers.  Omg †  osh  21:28, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

News from it.wikipedia :)..

• articles to create, if you want: Hector John Eastwood, Paulo Innocenti, Anton Kreutzer and Giuseppe Pirandello..
• articles to enlarge, if you want: Bruno Pesaola, Hasse Jeppson, Attila Sallustro and Antonio Vojak.. 93.56.57.198 (talk) 06:07, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

clasification rules in Serie A

In the early years of Serie A teams are clasified only after the points.

Until 2004 the Rules for classification were:

1) points; 2) goal difference; 3) number of goals scored. When were this rules introduced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vfb1893 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't see what you're trying to point out. As far as I know, up until the 2004–05 season, if two teams finished on the same points, a tie-breaker game was contested. Since 2005–06 season, head-to-head record was introduced as the primary tie-breaker criteria. Luxic (talk) 22:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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Italian Football Champions

Talk:List of Italian football champions (last section).--151.70.34.69 (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

These sentence is wrong:

"Following the scandal of match-fixing and the split between the FIGC and the CCI, the Viareggio charter was drawn up to legalise professionalism, ban foreign players, and rationalise the championship from its regionalised state into national leagues: the Serie A and Serie B."

I corrected:

"The Viareggio charter (1926) was drawn up to legalise professionalism, ban foreign players, and rationalise the championship creating a new national top league where Northern and Southern teams play in the same championship: Divisione Nazionale. To the new Championship were admitted 17 teams from Lega Nord (Northern League) and 3 teams from Lega Sud (Southern League) for a total of 20 teams, divided into two national groups of 10 teams each."

But an admin rollbacked all.
Why I'm right:

• • p. 56 (about Championship 1925-26) "La commissione ... sottopose al presidente del CONI la Carta di Viareggio (allegato n. 4)". Page 57: "Nel frattempo aveva termine il campionato italiano 1925-26..." ("Meanwhile the italian championship 1925-26 ended..."), so the Viareggio Chart was issued in 1926.
  • If you read the Viareggio Chart (Allegato n. 4) "Viene conservata la Divisione Nazionale, ammettendo ad essa, oltre alle 16 squadre... della Lega Nord, tre squadre della Lega Sud... e una ventesima squadra scelta in un torneo ad eliminazione tra le otto squadre eliminate dalla Prima Divisione Lega Nord della stagione decorsa, e non comprese nella Divisione Nazionale... Le 20 squadre della Divisione Nazionale saranno divise in due gironi da dieci squadre ciascuno..." (Resuming: The Top League is therefore called Divisione Nazionale. 20 teams will be admitted: 16 from Northern League, 3 from Southern League and a 20th team, the winner of the Playoffs among the last 8 teams of Prima Divisione Lega Nord 1925-26. These 20 clubs will be divided in two groups of 10 teams each.) So the Viareggio Chart (1926) isn't connected to the birth of Serie A and Serie B (1929), being made 3 years before!
  • CONI "Nell'estate del 1926, per interessamente [sic "interessamento"] diretto del CONI, vennero emanate le "Carte di Viareggio" che operavano una prima distinsione [sic "distinzione"] tra giocatori "dilettanti" e "non dilettanti"."
    

Anyone could correct this? I've used primary sources!

• I also splited the generic name "Italian Football Championship" in their true names:
  • Prima Categoria (up to 1922 FIGC)
  • Prima Divisione (from 1922 CCI to 1926)
  • Divisione Nazionale (from 1926 to 1929)

Reverted (or undid is the same)! Sources for the names RSSSF (1924) and sgg. "1st Division North". RSSSF (1927) and sgg.: "Divisione Nazionale" and Piramide.--151.70.34.69 (talk) 20:22, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Maps 1930s-1940s

In 1929–30 Serie B and later editions until to World War II, the map locating the teams' place is a good idea, but the map is wrong. Italy between 1918 and 1947 included also the whole Venezia Giulia, Istria (with Pola and Fiume) included. So using the map with modern Italy, with Fiume (now Rijeka) and Pola (now Pula) in Croatia, is wrong. In this way in the map in 1929-30 Serie B and 1941-42 Serie B Fiumana is located in Croazia, not in Italy, and this is wrong (also placing Grion Pola, the football team of Pola, in Croazia is wrong). The map should be corrected, inserting a map of the Kingdom of Italy between 1918 and 1947, in order to show Fiume and Pola in Italy, not in Croatia.--151.70.48.55 (talk) 17:50, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

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Football derbies in Italy

Hi everyone. I've made an article Football derbies in Italy, at the moment it is mostly a poorly translated counterpart of its twin brother at Italian wikipedia. There are a ton of redlinks, and there's still a lot of errors, which I'm eliminating one by one but there's only one of me. As you are all part of the Italian football task force, I thought you guys might be able to help out? Abcmaxx (talk) 20:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi! First of all, thanks for your contributions. Unfortunately, I don't think you will find much help here, as this task force has been sort of dormant for quite a while. My suggestion is to seek assistance on the main project's talk page, or else you may look for active users who regularly make edits to Italian football articles and ask them. Personally, I would be glad to help, but to be honest I haven't had much time to spend here lately. As you can see from my history, what I do is mostly keeping AC Milan-related articles up to date and patrolled. Luxic (talk) 18:39, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll update the rest of the article if you remove the formatting so that it is the same as the Alessandria Derby (i.e. remove the italicisation). Please also remove the titles in the Provincial Derbies section. mgSH 17:37, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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Serie B promotion/relegation 2019

Both the English and Italian pages -- though mostly excellent -- are confusing as regards the relegation format. With 19 clubs, both are written as though 22 clubs still are in the league. I am not sure if there has been a decision to increase the number of clubs back to 22 in future, or if the exact same relegation/play-out criteria apply now as before, but it is not clear to a non-expert how the system works with 19 instead of 22 clubs. I wonder if someone who has better knowledge of this than I do would have a look at these pages. The Real Rizman (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

The relegation system is unchanged from last season, meaning that the bottom three teams are relegated, whereas the fourth- and fifth-to-last face each other in a relegation play-off (unless the gap between them is more than four points, in which case the fourth-to-last get relegated directly). You can read the full regulations on the Italian FA's website at this link. As for next season, the number of teams is being increased to 20 by simply having five promotions instead of four from Serie C. I checked both the English and Italian version of the current Serie B season articles and they look fine. Luxic (talk) 19:39, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

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