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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dipu GhoshEdit

This needs to be looked at since WP:NBAD point 5 is met. (talk) 18:05, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Medal count box for badminton playersEdit

Hi Project Badminton Team, can I check if we are allowed to create medal count box in individual player profiles for badminton players as per other sports?

For example:

|- | colspan="3" style="padding:0" |

Event 1st 2nd 3rd
Olympic Games 0 0 1
BWF World Championships 0 0 1
Sudirman Cup 0 1 1
Thomas Cup 0 1 0
Asian Games 0 0 1
Asia Championships 2 1 1
BWF World Junior Championships 0 0 3
Asia Junior Championships 0 0 4
Total 2 3 12

I have been creating medal count box for some badminton players profile(WIP) but there is another wikipedian(from this project) reverting my edits for medal count box citing WP:BADM so I wish to clarify with the team here.

Also, are we allowed to display the Olympic logo using "

" within the profile for players who won olympic medals just underneath the olympic games header for the olympic year and games that they won? Thank you!! Atom105 (talk) 07:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

@Atom105, until you edits, there is no badminton related articles used "MedalCount temp" in {{Infobox Badminton player}}. Im not sure why that temp didn't added to the badminton infobox from the beginning, but, i think that temp is redundant or repeating medaltemplates parameter. @User:Aleenf1, User:Zoglophie please give ur oppinion... For Olympic logo, MOS:LOGO said "The insertion of logos as icons into articles is strongly discouraged: While illustration of a logo may be appropriate at the main article on the topic to which the logo pertains, use of logos as icons is not useful to our readers, and often presents legal problems." Stvbastian (talk) 09:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

     :@Stvbastian I disagree that the medal count infobox template is redundant and it is not repeating information
     either. For badminton players with many medals, it is difficult to see at a glance how many type/quantity of medal the players have
     without the medal count infobox. Moreover, no other information except(medal count) is repeated as the tournament hyperlinks
     besides the medal won(the current format now) links to the individual tournament article for that match. The tournament title
     hyperlink for the medal count box links to the general wikipedia article for that tournament and not the individual tournament
     matches. This information is useful as it provides a quick link to the various main tournament articles for reader to check on.
     Readers who wish to check on the individual tournament match data can click the hyperlink below the medal count infobox as per current format.

     Understood with regards to olympic logo legal issue. I agree they are not that useful beside beautifying the infobox. will remove
     them once the discussion about the medal count infobox is concluded and we have consensus. Atom105 (talk) 09:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

I do not agree with the inclusion of medal count box, especially in badminton blp articles. Not only it cause repitition (medals are already shown in chronology) but also it serves no purpose when there are not very high amount of medals present in infobox. I can agree with inclusion in articles like Michael Phelps where it is difficult to assess the number of medals in infobox. Not the case with badminton. 🌌Zoglophie🌌 10:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
There are some badminton players with a high amount of medals(Yuta Watanabe/Chen Long are such examples). It is difficult to see at a glance how many medals they won. In addition as i have said, the medal count info box includes useful information such as the main tournament informations. These links are not in the infobox as per current format(current format links to the individual year tournaments and not the main tournament article) I feel that this is useful. Atom105 (talk) 11:07, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
@Atom105 what do u mean with main tournament? I think, all the major tournaments already including in "medaltemplates" parameter. Stvbastian (talk) 16:27, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
@Stvbastian My apologies. I have re-checked the infobox for badminton players and the main tournament hyperlink is there in the current infobox format. The remaining issue left would be medal count for players with many medals such as Chen Long(for example). Does the WP team feels its really not necessary? As I have said, badminton is the only sports discipline not doing it and it looks weird. Have the WP Team not considered standardization of infobox with the other sports disciplines for general information(medal tally count in this case)?
@Stvbastian,@Zoglophie,@Aleenf1 Its been about a week since we brought this topic up for discussion. Given the current consensus of 2 is to 1 with regards to this medal count box, I have decided to respect the decision of the Team and will refrain from adding or editing the Infoboxes of badminton players at this time. Thanks and good day. Atom105 (talk) 04:08, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Thomas & Uber Cup related articlesEdit

Does anyone know whether whether the various "Thomas & Uber Cup" articles (e.g. 2020 Thomas & Uber Cup) are about a single tournament or about two separate tournaments as well as whether the ampersand is part of the official name of the tournament. Ampersands shouldn't generally be used in the titles of articles and headings as well as article prose for the reasons given in MOS:AMP unless they're part of an official name; whether this is the case, however, isn't really clear from and If the ampersand is part of the official name, then that's fine; if it's not, however, and was just added as a type of shorthand, then some cleanup might be needed for all of the articles listed in Category:Thomas & Uber Cup. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:20, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

There is a merge discussion in progress at Talk:2020 Thomas & Uber Cup that is relevant to this project. noq (talk) 17:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

What is "Bronze/Final"Edit

Some articles, like Badminton at the 2008 Summer Olympics, use the term "Bronze/Final", but I don't find that in sources. Does it mean something different from "Bronze final", or can I change it to that? Dicklyon (talk) 01:04, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Never mind; clearly it means "Bronze & finals" so I changed to that in the table. Dicklyon (talk) 20:22, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Sorry no one answered you before you made changes. "Bronze/Final" is the match played between the losers of the semi-finals to determine who gets bronze (third place). "Bronze/Final" is perhaps not a good name for it, but I feel "Bronze & finals" is a lot more misleading. --SVTCobra 03:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
"Bronze final" is the term for what you're talking about. Here and in a tennis article, "Bronz/Final" in a schedule table was used to indicate that both the bronze final and the final were in the same time slot. Let me know if that's not right on this one. Thanks for replying. Dicklyon (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

RFC that could affect this projectEdit

There is a titling RFC at Wikipedia talk:Article titles that will affect many articles at this project. There was discussion of making the RfC handled bit by bit before all projects understood the ramifications with entertainment being singled out next in a deleted draft, and other projects after that. Whether you agree or don't agree please join in the discussion for this massive Wikipedia change. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:43, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

MOS for player biographyEdit

Hi, is there any MOS for badminton player's biography article? I noted that some players biography article has the number of titles and runner-up placing besides certain tournaments under achievements such as 2.6 BWF World Tour (7 titles, 7 runners-up) 2.7 BWF Superseries (6 titles, 4 runners-up) 2.8 BWF Grand Prix (2 titles, 3 runners-up) 2.9 BWF International Challenge/Series (9 titles, 5 runners-up). For an active player (especially if they are rather young), this means the section name will keep changing to keep updating. It will certainly be better to keep it to a single line of prose within the section such that the article remains stable (for section name) while content is regularly being updated. Also I feel that that this is WP:UNDUE on the number of titles on section names. So to summarise, (1)is there a MOS to define the sections? and (2)if not, I am proposing not to list the number of titles and runners-up in section names to stablise the article. Thanks. --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 02:07, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Justanothersgwikieditor: This is how we represent titles in achievement section, i.e. World tour, super series, challenges etc. I do not see a problem with it. Defining each and every tournament in career section with a statement is also next to impossible as there are many players with numerous tournaments in succession. It is also a convenient way and is well defined in the main project page. And for the number of titles, I think @Stvbastian: could possibly suggest something. zoglophie 18:14, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Zoglophie, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in my intention. What I am suggesting is instead of writing the number of titles in the section name, eg 2.8 BWF Grand Prix (2 titles, 3 runners-up), we just write the tournament name 2.8 BWF Grand Prix and in the very first line of the section, so-and-so has won 2 titles and placed runners-up 3 times, etc. With this, we have a stable section structure, any update to number of titles and runners-up will be purely in prose instead of updating section names. Of course, if the preference is to remain as it is, I am fine with it. Thanks! -- Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 00:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Pending proposal to declare NSPORTS (and NBADMINTON) an invalid argument at AfDEdit

A new proposal is now pending to add language to NSPORT providing, among other things, that "meeting [NSPORTS or NBADMINTON] would not serve as a valid keep argument in a deletion discussion." If you have views on this proposal, one way or the other, please feel free to add your comments at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Subproposal 1 (NSPORT). Cbl62 (talk) 17:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pia Zebadiah Bernadeth#Requested move 30 March 2022Edit

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pia Zebadiah Bernadeth#Requested move 30 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 21:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[ Article of things]" ''''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

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Domou AmroEdit

Please make a comment here. Thankyou. zoglophie 09:49, 6 May 2022 (UTC)