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AfD alertEdit

A badminton-related deletion discussion is in progress – Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tata Open India International Challenge 2013. It pertains to deletion of the following seven articles:

Thanks. - NitinMlk (talk) 19:54, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi all!! There are some pages still on afd.. Please participate on the debate.. NitinMlk, Florentyna, Donaldinyongin

Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 18:46, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi User:NitinMlk and User:Stvbastian! Too bad I can't help with those AfD, I just saw the 2014 New Zealand GP and it is saddening to see that it is bashed by those who do not have a good understanding of badminton world and deleted... From what I see, the title (which include "Grand Prix") is somehow misleading Google News Search thus making no result due to confusion of other events like New Zealand Grand Prix. And for the often AfD nominated player articles (particularly IS/IC level winners), I think we should not really create the article unless there is another independent source such as the one in Akane Araki. Griff88 (talk) 09:36, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi all! There are some pages on afd.. Please participate on the debate.. (NitinMlk, Donaldinyongin, SVTCobra, Aleenf1, Widefox, Griff88)

Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 09:34, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi all, please participate on the discussion for some AFD's. (NitinMlk, Donaldinyongin, Florentyna, Aleenf1, Griff88)

Thank you. Stvbastian (talk) 07:38, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi all, please participate on the discussion for some AFD's. (NitinMlk, Donaldinyongin, Florentyna, Aleenf1, Griff88, GlashaLeo, Nardisoero)

Thank you.. Stvbastian (talk) 14:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Another badminton-related AfD:

Carter (talk) 14:17, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web toolEdit

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Dal AC Rams Varsity BadmintonEdit

Hello Badminton experts. I found this draft article, which is up for review at WP:AFC. Can someone take a look at it? I don't know much about sports references.—Anne Delong (talk) 12:00, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

DiscordEdit

Hey all, I hope everyone is safe and healthy. My name is HickoryOughtShirt?4 and I'm a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey. I was wondering if there was any interest in starting a WikiProject Sports channel on Discord? There's quite a few of us who are interested in sports, and I think it would be a good idea to help the WikiProject recruit more members. You guys can join us through here.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:09, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

BWF Junior International tournament titleEdit

I see that User:Fahrurozi.86 and User:Zoglophie adding junior tournament results in some articles. But, there were inconsistent for tournament title. For example in Phittayaporn Chaiwan article: some tournaments are using and some are not using the sponsorship information, and sometimes the sponsorship information does not complete. My suggestion for the title refer to German Wikipedia (see: [1]). Roza BTY Junior International Challenge simply write as Thailand Junior; Pembangunan Jaya Raya Junior International Grand Prix simply write as Indonesia Junior, etc.

This is the example for the table:
BWF Junior International
Girls' singles

Year Tournament Level Opponent Score Result
2017 Thailand Junior International Challenge
2017 Indonesia Junior International Grand Prix
2018 Singapore Youth International Series
2019 Danish Junior Cup‎ International Series

If you have a suggestion, please leave a comment. Stvbastian (talk) 01:46, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

What the tournament official title? --Aleenf1 03:47, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Reference is one & only Bwf site, and we can trust this as a reliable source because all the results of Junior international events are available for New gen players. Not mentioning the top players. It is a great idea and we should work upon it. Further improvements as mentioned here can be done. Zoglophie (talk) 04:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

You mean every tournament participated? --Aleenf1 05:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
@Aleen all the junior tournament official title available in bwfbadminton.com. For example in 2018, Thailand Junior official title is Yonex-Shera-Roza-Bty Junior International, Indonesia Junior official title is Pembangunan Jaya Raya Junior Grand Prix. Just like the senior tournament title ex. CELCOM AXIATA Malaysia Open simply write as Malaysia Open. Not every tournament participated are listed in the table, but only the final result. @Zoglophie yes the tournament results are available in BWF site. But, when you are citing a reference for Wikipedia article, it would be great to use a reliable secondary source (see: WP:NOR).Stvbastian (talk) 07:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)


Actually the Bwf site is reliable in some areas as I mentioned here. Some areas like the h2h details, the information is very much wrong. I discovered there was no Results available of WJC in official site eventhough it is a bwf event. But this is another topic, here discussion is about the Junior tournaments, so i believe we should trust this for including Results. From some years, there is i think no mistake in entering the data in the site. I wish there was a secondary source available as you are talking about, but it is not. Zoglophie (talk) 07:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thailand Junior, what is Thailand Junior? Even myself also not get it based on that title. We need to standardize the naming conventions. As for the results table, hope is the finals only and not every tournament participated. --Aleenf1 07:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Aleenf1, yes only finals day are included as per my edits.  🗿 ZoGlOpHiE 🖋️ 📒

@Aleen Thailand Junior or Thailand Junior International or Yonex-Shera-Roza-Bty Junior International is an international junior badminton tournament held in Thailand (see also: in German Wikipedia). Please give your suggestion to standardize the naming of tournament title. @Zoglophie since you already mentioned about reference from the beginning, i would like to let you know that Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources (per WP:PSTS). Tournament result in BWF site is a primary source, so while are you citing a reference for an article in Wikipedia, it would be better to use reliable, published secondary sources. For an example in Benyapa Aimsaard, all the sources that you citing are primary sources. Here are some secondary sources to replaced the primary in Benyapa Aimsaard article: [2], [3], [4].

Another suggestion for table:
BWF Junior International
Girls' singles

Year Tournament Opponent Score Result
2017 Thailand Junior
2017 Indonesia Junior
2018 Singapore Youth
2018 Santo Domingo Junior
  BWF Junior International Grand Prix tournament
  BWF Junior International Challenge tournament
  BWF Junior International Series tournament
  BWF Junior Future Series tournament

Stvbastian (talk) 02:22, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thailand Junior International? Since the tournament can be promoted or demoted, than is much more headache here. For colour code i'm not have any point of view, but please care for colour blind person, as BWF tournament grade has been mixed up over the years. --Aleenf1 04:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
A superscript text like Thailand Junior International JIC would be an option too.--Aleenf1 04:03, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Aleen Thank you for your suggestion. Ill going with the second table with friendly color for color blind person (per color blind friendly palette).

BWF Junior International
Girls' singles

Year Tournament Opponent Score Result
2017 Thailand Junior International
2017 Indonesia Junior International
2018 Singapore Youth International
2018 Santo Domingo Junior International
  BWF Junior International Grand Prix tournament
  BWF Junior International Challenge tournament
  BWF Junior International Series tournament
  BWF Junior Future Series tournament

Stvbastian (talk) 08:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I think every junior tour can simply use XXX Junior International with the notable exceptions of Indonesia and Thailand which have 2 junior tournaments each. Three of them uses a club's name (Jaya Raya, Banthongyord, Granular) rather than a country name, while the other is called Jakarta Junior Open. The project members here can make a consensus for these 4 tournaments. Griff88 (talk) 10:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Frankly, i have no problem with the colors except the 2nd one in table, Olive green isn't a great choice, suggesting a change in that color code. If you have more options, please alter it.

& I have no issues with the names of the tournaments, any changes will have my support ✌️  🗿 ZoGlOpHiE 🖋️ 📒

Naming conventionEdit

Based on articles created by Lugnuts, user spelled Hans Sperre Jr. with capital letter in junior per WP:JR/SR. But, most of secondary reliable sources spelled as Hans Sperre jr. (examples: [5], [6], [7]), same with Norway Badminton yearbook published by Badminton Europe (see: [8]) and Norway Wikipedia (see: [9]). And for Lee Gwang-jin, do we have to use Lee Gwang-jin or Lee Kwang-jin as the page title? (Griff88, Donaldinyongin, Florentyna, Aleenf1) Stvbastian (talk) 14:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Unlike in English, the suffix "Junior" is all small letters in Norwegian. And looks like when we write about someone in English, we will have to use capital "J" as in the correct English style instead of small "j" in their native language. Example of this is Johan H. Andresen Jr. and the Norwegian wiki entry no:Johan H. Andresen jr.. Regarding Lee Gwang-jin, I think we can follow the other Wiki languages that had already used "K" instead of "G" just for consistency. Griff88 (talk) 14:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Difficult. All the transliterations for non latin languages like Korean have advantages and disadvantages. I mostly try to capture an image of the person with a name on the shirt when competing and use this version. Junior probably will not have such. The most correct spelling one can probably find in some publications of the Sperre family, or of the club where they are from. --Florentyna (talk) 19:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
As for Lee Gwang-jin, Lee Kwang-jin is correct. That is how it was spelled in the 1990s when he was playing and it is the spelling used by the BWF and the IOC. The government has a new Romanization system, that's true but even players who were born since that system was introduced often use non-standard Romanizations. Donaldinyongin (talk) 12:35, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

World Badminton magazine issues (1970s-80s)Edit

Hello. Does anyone have access to World Badminton magazine from the 1970s to 1980s? I'm making an article on Claire Backhouse-Sharpe and I haven't been able to confirm that she won two gold medals at the 1978 Pan American Badminton Championships. The Wikipedia article has a lot of blanks in the 1970s and 1980s, and I would like if they were filled in. While I do would like to verify Backhouse-Sharpe's Pan Am medals, it would be nice to see the gaps on these championships filled in as well! Thanks :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:53, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

MrLinkinPark333 Unfortunately, there is no archive articles from the International Badminton Federation (now: BWF) at that years. There is a possibility to find that information in subscription site like www.newspapers.com. For another information, you can check in German Wikipedia (see: Claire Backhouse). Stvbastian (talk) 02:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Badminton/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.

The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process (WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.

The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.

I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.

Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) (talk) 23:46, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Auto archivingEdit

I've also boldly added some auto archiving to this page, seeing as there are threads here stretching back to 2010. --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

:-:Edit

Will anyone tell me about this? Which tournament is this? I saw it even effects h2h record between the players and many retired players also playing in this tournament. Like, Li xuerui! 🔹Zoglophie🔸 (tauk) 15:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding, this tournament held in December last year. 🔹Zoglophie🔸 (tauk) 15:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Request for Comment on SSN at WP:Notability (sports)Edit

There is a discussion on SSN (sport specific guidelines) at RFC on Notability (sports) policy and reliability issues. Feel free to go there and post your comments. Cassiopeia(talk) 00:51, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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