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Voyager 1 edit

Latest comment: 18 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I know that the Voyager 1 entry was removed, but I re-added the information because it was notable, considering that Voyager 1 is currently the most distant man-made object. --Ixfd64 05:55, 2005 September 4 (UTC)

I'd say it's a tough call, but if it was up to me, I'd take out Voyager, since there are already enough mentions of it throughout the calendar; this is only the launch date but we have every other date for it already in there... The other 5 are too important to cut...! Codex Sinaiticus 22:19, 4 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

All right, I've commented out the Voyager 1 entry for now. In that case, it can be easily restored if necessary. --Ixfd64 22:28, 2005 September 4 (UTC)

For next year, we can move Great Fire of London to September 2 to make room for Voyager 1. Alternatively, we can cycle events in and out throughout the day..... Wish we can show a different set of anniversaries every time the MainPage is refreshed/reloaded... -- PFHLai 08:38, 2005 September 5 (UTC)

the first President of the Republic of Texas edit

Latest comment: 17 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

Moved from WP:ERRORS.

Not sure this is an error on the Main Page, could just be a conflict, but it says Sam Houston was elected as the first President of the Republic of Texas, with a wikilink at President to List of Presidents of the Republic of Texas, which lists him as the second President of Texas. Maybe he was the first elected President? Anyway, one of these items needs to be corrected. Thanks, Ruhrfisch 02:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

David G. Burnet was selected ad interim; Houston was the first elected one. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 03:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

The main page really should be fixed. Been a long time since 8th grade Tx history, but this popped out at me right away. -- Kendrick7 19:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

And not to get too nit-picky, but Burnet was elected, just not by popular vote. -- Kendrick7 20:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Lynette Fromme
Omitted: Battle of the Chesapeake; Landing at Nadzab; Léopold Sédar Senghor; Munich massacre (ineligible—maintenance); Voyager 1
Included: Battle of Hudson's Bay (first appearance); Reign of Terror (6th appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible); Crazy Horse (2nd appearance, last in 2004); Oswald the Lucky Rabbit (first appearance); Gotthard Road Tunnel (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:12, 4 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Léopold Sédar Senghor (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Hudson's Bay; Crazy Horse; Gotthard Road Tunnel
Included: Liu Yan (emperor) (first appearance); Battle of the Chesapeake (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Lynette Fromme (first appearance)
Repeats: Reign of Terror (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Oswald the Lucky Rabbit (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:59, 4 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 5 September 2013 edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

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I am alarmed by the declination of wikipedia's integrity to the point of 'on this day including information about some disney character named 'Oswald the rabbit', yet including absolutely nothing about the 36th anniversary of the launch of Voyager 1, the farthest man made object from Earth and arguably one of mankind's most remarkable and resilient scientific achievements. Thank you for turning a cold shoulder to science, yet again, to pander to the lowest common denominator. 66.87.98.214 (talk) 17:15, 5 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not everything can appear every year and there is certainly no policy of turning a cold shoulder to science. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, the more articles that are written and improved about science and scientific achievements, the better - and that would help to "balance out", as it were, articles about popular culture. Bencherlite ^Talk 17:36, 5 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Suggestion for 2014 edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Centenary of the death of Charles_Péguy, French poet. 63.76.53.42 (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)Fred (lapsed Wikipedian)Reply

Sorry, there is an unreferenced section in the article, making him ineligible to be included. —howcheng {chat} 05:54, 4 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Treaty of Portsmouth
Omitted: Liu Yan (emperor); Battle of the Chesapeake; Oswald the Lucky Rabbit; Lynette Fromme
Included: First Continental Congress (5th appearance, last in 2010); First Battle of the Marne (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Igor Gouzenko (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Voyager 1 (5th appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Reign of Terror (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: First Continental Congress; Reign of Terror (ineligible—maintenance); Voyager 1
Included: Liu Yan (emperor) (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Battle of Hudson's Bay (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Lynette Fromme (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 40th anniversary)
Repeats: First Battle of the Marne (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Igor Gouzenko (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 70th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Liu Yan (emperor); First Battle of the Marne; Lynette Fromme
Included: Reign of Terror (9th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Treaty of Portsmouth (6th appearance, last in 2009); Gotthard Road Tunnel (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Battle of Hudson's Bay (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Igor Gouzenko (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:00, 4 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: First Continental Congress (maintenance); First Battle of the Marne (maintenance); Oswald the Lucky Rabbit (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Hudson's Bay (ineligible—maintenance); Reign of Terror (ineligible—maintenance); Treaty of Portsmouth (ineligible—maintenance); Igor Gouzenko (ineligible—maintenance); Gotthard Road Tunnel (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Liu Yan (emperor) (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 1100th anniversary); Battle of the Chesapeake (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Tottenham Hotspur F.C. (first appearance); Roscoe Arbuckle (first appearance); Voyager 1 (6th appearance, last in 2014; 40th anniversary); Robert Spencer, 2nd Earl of Sunderland (first appearance); Amy Beach (first appearance; 150th anniversary); Jochen Rindt (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 03:04, 5 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Liu Yan (emperor) (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of the Chesapeake; Roscoe Arbuckle; Robert Spencer, 2nd Earl of Sunderland (ineligible—maintenance); Amy Beach; Jochen Rindt
Included: Battle of Hudson's Bay (4th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Landing at Nadzab (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 75th anniversary); Lynette Fromme (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Caspar David Friedrich (first appearance); Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy (first appearance); Neerja Bhanot (first appearance)
Repeats: Tottenham Hotspur F.C. (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Voyager 1 (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Roscoe Arbuckle (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): First Continental Congress
New articles (unused): Freddie Mercury; Yuna Kim
Omitted: Battle of Hudson's Bay; Tottenham Hotspur F.C.; Lynette Fromme; Voyager 1; Caspar David Friedrich; Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy; Neerja Bhanot
Included: Liu Yan (emperor) (4th appearance, last in 2017; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Copenhagen (1807) (3rd appearance, last in 2015; moved from September 2); Crazy Horse (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Treaty of Portsmouth (7th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Nap Lajoie (first appearance); Archie Jackson (first appearance); Rochus Misch (first appearance)
Repeats: Landing at Nadzab (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:43, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Voyager 1 (featured on August 25 this year); Yuna Kim (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Copenhagen (1807); Crazy Horse; Treaty of Portsmouth; Landing at Nadzab; Nap Lajoie; Archie Jackson; Rochus Misch
Included: First Continental Congress (6th appearance, last in 2014); Tottenham Hotspur F.C. (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Zimmerwald Conference (first appearance); Lynette Fromme/Attempted assassination of Gerald Ford in Sacramento (Fromme: 4th appearance, last in 2018; Attempt: first appearance); Lester Allan Pelton (first appearance); Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb (first appearance); Jochen Rindt (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Liu Yan (emperor) (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 21:12, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Voyager 1
Omitted: First Continental Congress; Tottenham Hotspur F.C.; Zimmerwald Conference; Lynette Fromme/Attempted assassination of Gerald Ford in Sacramento; Lester Allan Pelton; Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb; Jochen Rindt
Included: Battle of Hudson's Bay (5th appearance, last in 2018); Sam Houston (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Treaty of Portsmouth (8th appearance, last in 2019); Landing at Nadzab (4th appearance, last in 2019); Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Sarah Emma Edmonds (first appearance); Freddie Mercury (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 75th birthday; moved from November 24)
Repeats: Liu Yan (emperor) (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 21:26, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Copenhagen (1807) (maintenance); Crazy Horse (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Hudson's Bay (ineligible—maintenance); Sam Houston; Treaty of Portsmouth; Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy; Sarah Emma Edmonds; Freddie Mercury
Included: Battle of the Chesapeake (4th appearance, last in 2017); Zimmerwald Conference (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Voyager 1 (9th appearance, last in 2020); Caspar David Friedrich (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Jochen Rindt (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Neerja Bhanot (2nd appearance, last in 2018)
Repeats: Liu Yan (emperor) (4th consecutive appearance, 7 total); Landing at Nadzab (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 20:25, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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