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Hope some admin has this on the watch list ... Apparently Evita's and Juan Perron's marriage took plave on oct, 22, not 21 - see as the most reliable looking site I found on this <sheesh it's a blocked site> evita<dot>4mg<dot>com/CapI<dot>html (in Spanish, but search 22 de octubre de 1945 there). On German selected anniversaries I've chosen Megamouth Shark#6 instead see [1] for further information) cheers --de:Benutzer:Interpretix 01:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. I wish I'd seen this earlier. The wedding is now off the list of selected anniversaries. I've copied your post on Talk:Eva Perón. I hope someone more familiar with the Peróns than me can get this clarified. Thanks. --PFHLai 17:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Trafalgar Day edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The article isn't anything special, but how far away is Trafalgar Day from being well-written enough to be on here? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 14:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: People's Crusade; England expects that every man will do his duty; Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum; Valentich disappearance (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Florence Nightingale (8th appearance, last in 2010); Medicine Lodge Treaty (3rd appearance, last in 2010); Battle of Yongju (first appearance); Jaffna hospital massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Saint Pierre and Miquelon (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): HMS Niobe (1897)
Omitted: Saint Pierre and Miquelon; Florence Nightingale; Medicine Lodge Treaty; Battle of Yongju; Jaffna hospital massacre
Included: People's Crusade (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Sekigahara (3rd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Orpheus in the Underworld (5th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); The Sheik/Rudolph Valentino (both: first appearance); Metre (6th appearance, last in 2010; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:32, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Saint Pierre and Miquelon (maintenance)
Omitted: People's Crusade; Battle of Sekigahara; Orpheus in the Underworld; The Sheik (film)/Rudolph Valentino; Metre
Included: England expects that every man will do his duty (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Florence Nightingale (9th appearance, last in 2012); HMS Niobe (1897) (first appearance); Battle of Aachen (3rd appearance, last in 2010; 70th anniversary); Disappearance of Frederick Valentich (3rd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible)

—howcheng {chat} 10:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: England expects that every man will do his duty; HMS Niobe (1897); Battle of Aachen; Disappearance of Frederick Valentich
Included: Battle of Sekigahara (4th appearance, last in 2013); Medicine Lodge Treaty (4th appearance, last in 2012); Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Andreas Papandreou (first appearance)
Repeats: Florence Nightingale (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Back to the Future Day 2015 edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

FYI October 21st 2015 is getting some press coverage as Back to the Future Day, e.g. BBC (mostly taken from this Financial Times story, NBC, CNN, 63,934 likes on Facebook, etc. And there are special screenings all over the place, e.g. [2], [3], [4]. - Pointillist (talk) 17:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Done. Will take it off for next year. —howcheng {chat} 22:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 request edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

@Howcheng: - the Aberfan disaster is listed as ineligible due to external links. I see no reason why this should be. Both ELs are relevant to the article and neither seems to be in breach of WP:ELNO. As this year is the 50th anniversary, can the article be featured with a photograph please? Mjroots (talk) 07:49, 6 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Mjroots: This is what it looked like a year ago. Looks like someone did some pruning, so we are good to go. —howcheng {chat} 16:46, 6 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Sekigahara (ineligible—maintenance); Florence Nightingale; Medicine Lodge Treaty; Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum; Andreas Papandreou
Included: People's Crusade (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Orpheus in the Underworld (6th appearance, last in 2013); HMS Niobe (1897) (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Aberfan disaster (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible; 50th anniversary); Metre (7th appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 03:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Florence Nightingale (maintenance); Andreas Papandreou (maintenance); Jaffna hospital massacre (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Kragujevac massacre (TFA for 2017; moved from October 20)
Omitted: People's Crusade; Orpheus in the Underworld; HMS Niobe (1897); Metre
Included: Saint Pierre and Miquelon (3rd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); England expects that every man will do his duty (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Medicine Lodge Treaty (5th appearance, last in 2015; 150th anniversary); Agreed Framework (first appearance); Sims Reeves (first appearance); Isabelle Eberhardt (first appearance); Virginia Zeani (first appearance)
Repeats: Aberfan disaster (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:49, 21 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: People's Crusade (maintenance)
Omitted: England expects that every man will do his duty; Medicine Lodge Treaty; Aberfan disaster (ineligible—TFA for 2018); Agreed Framework; Sims Reeves; Isabelle Eberhardt; Virginia Zeani
Included: Florence Nightingale (11th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Aachen (4th appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Yongju (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Disappearance of Frederick Valentich (4th appearance, last in 2014); Edmund Waller (first appearance); Ursula K. Le Guin (first appearance); Steph Davies (first appearance)
Repeats: Saint Pierre and Miquelon (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 01:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Auberoche (TFA for March 2, 2019)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Aberfan disaster
New articles (unused): Dedan Kimathi/Mau Mau Uprising (Kimathi moved from February 18)
Omitted: Saint Pierre and Miquelon; Florence Nightingale; Battle of Aachen; Battle of Yongju; Disappearance of Frederick Valentich; Edmund Waller; Ursula K. Le Guin (ineligible—TFA for 2019); Steph Davies
Included: Orpheus in the Underworld (7th appearance, last in 2016); Medicine Lodge Treaty (6th appearance, last in 2017); Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 60th anniversary); 1969 Somali coup d'état/Somali Democratic Republic (both: first appearance); Metre (8th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Henry Lawes (first appearance); Georg Solti (first appearance); Dorothy Hale (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:04, 22 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Ursula K. Le Guin
Omitted: Orpheus in the Underworld; Medicine Lodge Treaty; Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum; 1969 Somali coup d'état/Somali Democratic Republic; Metre; Henry Lawes; Georg Solti; Dorothy Hale
Included: Battle of Auberoche (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Saint Pierre and Miquelon (5th appearance, last in 2018; 500th anniversary); Florence Nightingale (12th appearance, last in 2018); Disappearance of Frederick Valentich (5th appearance, last in 2018); John Cooke (Royal Navy officer) (first appearance); Will Carleton (first appearance); Hans Asperger (first appearance; 40th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 02:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: England expects that every man will do his duty (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Auberoche; Saint Pierre and Miquelon; Florence Nightingale; Disappearance of Frederick Valentich; John Cooke (Royal Navy officer); Will Carleton; Hans Asperger
Included: People's Crusade (4th appearance, last in 2016; 925th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Orpheus in the Underworld (8th appearance, last in 2019); Kragujevac massacre (6th appearance, last in 2016; 80th anniversary); Shinjuku riot (first appearance); Agreed Framework (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Birger Jarl (first appearance); Sims Reeves (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 200th birthday); Ursula K. Le Guin (2nd appearance, last in 2018)

—howcheng {chat} 07:13, 23 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

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