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22 March 2014 – Re user group

Should there be a page for 22 March 2014? Should it be /14 (and move the existing /14 (4 May 2014) to /15)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitch Ames (talk • contribs) 13:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

There should be a page, but I'm not sure whether or not it should be a numbered subpage. If the user group becomes its own formal thing, is it going to have meetings and/or minutes listed separately? Or will each subsequent Perth (& surrounds) meetup also double as a user group meeting? (Pinging @SatuSuro: for clarification) - Evad37 [talk] 01:08, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

It will effectively be the same thing - as the earlier meetups are an indicator of our on-going activities that contribute to the argument for a consituted user group satusuro 01:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

OK, so I've moved the previous /14 to Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/15, and now the 22 March meetup is now at Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/14. - Evad37 [talk] 02:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Now that the March's meeting (currently /14) has been delayed until after May's (currently /15), perhaps we should consider just naming the subpages by date (preferably ISO 8601) instead of a sequence number. Of course you'd still have to rename a page if the date changed - but Meetup/Perth/2014-05 would suffice if we don't yet know when in May - and changing any one would not affect the others). Mitch Ames (talk) 11:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Sounds sensible. Although we could always just think of the number as being identifying but non-sequential, and not bother to rearrange pages when dates change. There's no real need to have it sequential. Sam Wilson 23:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Meetup pages have always been numbered, while one may occassionally need to be shifted around its unusual for it to shifted out of sequence. Given we are meeting regularly sequencing should be for the now these meetups rather than an irregular meeting that has a specific purpose. Gnangarra 03:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I think we should stick to the numbered subpages. Everything can stay in the same format without, requiring 15 or so unnecessary page moves. Most date changes don't require a page move if numbered subpages are used, but every date change would require a page move if dated subpages are used. It is also unusual to schedule 3 meetups at once, as was done at the last regular meetups. An admin could do the page moves required to put everything back in order, but that seems like a lot of effort for not much benefit. - Evad37 [talk] 10:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

28 June 2014? – Re user group

Who's interested in the 28th for meetup 14? Sam Wilson 01:58, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Count me in. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I can't make it this weekend, but would be available the following weekend, or the weekend after that. - Evad37 [talk] 16:25, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

• Saturday isn't great - too many football commitments - Sunday would be better.Dan arndt (talk) 04:41, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Libraries are more fun than football! ;) Maybe mornings are better than arvos? Anyway, I put sundays on a possible schedule-finder thing: http://doodle.com/k9er3izd39pqaq6k#table Sam Wilson 05:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Meetup 16

... is currently listed as "?? August 2014 – in Fremantle". How does Sat 23rd sound? Pings: @Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, and SatuSuro:, @Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, and Bjenks:, @Graham87: - Evad37 [talk] 03:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

• can do Gnangarra 04:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
• OK for me. Exact venue? Bjenks (talk) 06:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

  User:Samwilson previously suggested the National Hotel ... - Evad37 [talk] 15:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

• OK, Mitch Ames (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
• Yo... satusuro 10:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
• Yup, wizzo, I'm in. Sam Wilson 01:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

  I've created the page, and added it to the meetup list, and WMAU site. Sam Wilson 02:47, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Meta:Wikipedia 15

Wikipedia turns 15 on January 15, 2016. This date fits in well with our two-monthly schedule, except it's a Friday instead of the usual Saturday or Sunday. So, should we maybe have the meetup Friday evening? Or perhaps on the Saturday 16th, because it will still be the 15th in the U.S.? Any other thoughts? - Evad37 [talk] 03:53, 21 September 2015 (UTC) Pinging @Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, Graham87 - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I reckon a Wikipedia dinner would be fun, on the Friday evening. Transport is harder though, come to think of it. And cake is better on Saturday mornings perhaps? Sam Wilson 06:37, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm thinking that I might still be away in India/Sri Lanka on the 15th but if I am back, jet lagged and smelling of curry, then I'll be there (this time). Dan arndt (talk) 07:01, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I could attend either Friday evening or Saturday. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Ditto. Graham87 15:15, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I can attend either day. Orderinchaos 17:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

• Leave this with me(if thats ok) I'll talk to WMAU for some support, I have a venue in mind with finger food to be provided lets make a song and dance, get people from some of the projects rather than just the usual suspects. Gnangarra 12:19, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
  • That's fine with me, for either date. You can set up the /23 page when you have more details. - Evad37 [talk] 16:55, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

2016 meetups

As discussed at last night's Wikipedia 15 meetup, this year we're going to move to a schedule of once a month. Also, apart from special events, the meetup locations will have a theme of 'moving up the Swan River': Starting in Fremantle in March (meetup #25), and each subsequent regular meeting moving further up the river to Midland (or possibly even Toodyay).

I was thinking the schedule could be something like:

• Mar: Fremantle
• Apr: Claremont
• May: Applecross
• Jun: South Perth
• Jul: Maylands Mount Lawley
• Aug: Ascot Maylands   (amended per comments below - Evad37 [talk] 05:47, 16 January 2016 (UTC))
• Sep: Bassendean
• Oct: Guildford
• Nov: Midland

How does that sound? Pinging @Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, and Orderinchaos:, @Bjenks and Graham87: - Evad37 [talk] 01:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. We could do one at Peninsula Farm (i.e. Tranby House)? No idea what the cafe's like there. Sam Wilson 01:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Excellent Idea!! I think we might talk about it more at the Freo and Claremont meetups, lets hope there is interest in this.

Just remember other state groups have lost people, and more or less closed down projects, where the focus on gotta do this and serious compulsion/etc got put into their programs.

If we are light on obligation, high on what a lark! all is fine... even if some people could only get to 3 in the year, great!!!

• Jul: Mount Lawley
• Aug: Maylands

As I live very close to Ascot, I'm more thinking of the coffee places, all have good locations, but just a suggested variant. JarrahTree 01:47, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's a good point JarrahTree — this is supposed to be fun! No obligation, no pressure. :) Although I must say, on the flip side, that I get more energy for doing this stuff from attending meetups. But yeah, let's have a lark! Sam Wilson 01:55, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

even if we only see editors or interested people once or twice in the year, it is important that the effort to just to get to those times is appreciated, and considered a positive response to the wa meetup events to not have any compulsion or requiremnts. As to the generating enthusiasm, I agree, local, state, national and international face to face events are an essential ingredient in keeping the whole thing going. JarrahTree 02:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the spirit of this is to have fun going to different locations. It's not meant to be a strict schedule, nor much different to what we've been doing up to now - Evad37 [talk] 02:07, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Driving to most of those places is a 100km+ round trip for me, so I generally prefer taking the train from Rockingham. Thus Perth is better than Freo. Overall feasibility will be about the length of walk from the nearest station. Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 03:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Good point, we should try to have most of these meetups close to train stations, for those catching public transport (which is perhaps another reason to go for Mount Lawley rather than Ascot). - Evad37 [talk] 05:42, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

There is also the point that however friendly we might be, every 4 weeks as opposed to every 8 might be just too many in a year? JarrahTree 09:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Maybe see how we all feel at the Freo meetup, or at the Wikidata meetup? If it seems like its too often we can always change to a 6- or 8-weekly pattern - Evad37 [talk] 09:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Interesting idea, agree with the idea of being near transport hubs but be careful to committing to places too far away in time because circumstances do change, we have had a number of meetups chosen to coincide with other activities like Freo Prison, and Toodyay. Like wise we should also consider that on occassion driving is a necessary aspect as places like Swan Valley and Tranby house(normally closed July/August) require, we should also look at timing as well shifting off the primarily only saturday to different days of the week so more people get the opportunity to attend especially for places like Freo, My Lawley, Leederville and Perth, Gnangarra 09:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Good points to consider. The list above is more to generate ideas/discussion (not a strict schedule), I wouldn't anticipate actually scheduling/finalising them until the previous meeting (like we've generally done up to now), so that we can fit in with other activities or opportunities that arise - Evad37 [talk] 09:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

As far as transport is concerned: Fremantle has a station and several possible venues nearby; Claremont has a Dome Cafe across the road from the station; Applecross - the Raffles Hotel and Clancy's Fish Shack are both just across Canning Bridge from Canning Bridge station; South Perth - Mends Street has a ferry jetty and several possible venues; Mt Lawley station is a short walk from Beaufort Street; Maylands has a Dome Cafe across the road from the station; Bassendean, Guildford and Midland all have a station and several possible venues near the station. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:50, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

There's also the Fremantle CAT covering much of Freo - Evad37 [talk] 14:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Meetup 30 (Maylands)

On the meetup page, Bahnfrend wrote:

We said it would be a café on the south side of Maylands railway station. The options appear to be Mrs S, Rifo's and Sherbet Café & Bake Shop. Any preferences?

I don't really mind, what does everyone else think? - Evad37 [talk] 08:46, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Pinging @Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, and Orderinchaos:, @Bjenks and Graham87: - Evad37 [talk] 08:46, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Looks good JarrahTree 09:01, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

I'd suggest that Sherbet Café & Bake Shop is probably not a good option - in case someone want serious food (something other than cake). Mitch Ames (talk) 12:54, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Cake is very serious, Mitch. Very. (But as there's also cake at Rifo's, I'd be happy for there.) —Sam Wilson 14:03, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Is Chapels on Whatley an option? I'm quite open to any of the other suggestions too. Orderinchaos 19:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Arbitrary decision made: Rifo's. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:31, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Noongarpedia wikibomb

Just a reminder that there's a Noongarpedia editing morning this Saturday at the State Library. See Meta:Noongarpedia#Events for more. —Sam Wilson 04:45, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Venue for meetup 31

Any suggestions for venues for Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/31 next weekend? Mitch Ames (talk) 13:05, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

How about To The Woods – 9 Old Perth Road, Bassendean, close to the train station (31.90396°S 115.94765°E / -31.90396; 115.94765). No website, but there's this menu on zomato.com. - Evad37 [talk] 03:36, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Chocolate pancakes with ice cream - sounds good to me. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:22, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Meetups 34 and 35

Has been set to 12th March due to previous weekend being the long weekend

Evad, Mitch Ames, and others please indicate if that is ok

also suggestions re venue for 35 - in the CBD or nearby PCEC or any idea? JarrahTree 15:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

12th is fine for me. If you're looking for venues close to PCEC, there's several places to eat/drink at Brookfield Place [1]. (Also re-ping Mitch Ames since broken links don't generate pings) - Evad37 [talk] 16:17, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

12 March is OK for me. Mitch Ames (talk) 09:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

The intention was to include other editors - but the links werent easy to hand, no offence to those not yet contacted over this at this stage.

At the meeting on wednesday, the mention about 'early in March', and also 'not on the long weekend', reduced the options somewhat to the 12th JarrahTree 12:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

12th is good for me, I think. Sorry I didn't make it yesterday; was fun? —Sam Wilson 12:56, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Added a box at the top with code to copy/paste. @Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Graham87: See above (also you can remove yourself from the box at the top of the page if you don't want to be pinged in future) - Evad37 [talk] 13:30, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Nah I need pinging always... thank you for your effort to rouse the crowd, appreciate your effort JarrahTree 13:32, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, good idea about the copyable box-o-pings. Sam Wilson 22:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Sadly, doubt I'll be free that day - it being the day after the election. Yay for being a candidate, lol. Orderinchaos 21:18, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

against 18 % you must be a masochist...good luck JarrahTree 04:56, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Do we have a time or place finalised for the next meet up ?? Dan arndt (talk) 23:54, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Dont know yet - still working onit JarrahTree 01:10, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Update on meetup 34

• [2]

Please note the details.

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: JarrahTree 13:12, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Meetup 38

@Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: I've been bold (and after a bit of discussion yesterday) and created the #38 page for next Saturday (22nd). Is this okay with everyone? Sam Wilson 01:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Given the time (12:00/15:00), are we allowed food in the Bibliotech? Mitch Ames (talk) 11:14, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

No - the earlier part of the meeting can be in the coffee shop first JarrahTree 04:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I'll be an apology as I'm overseas during the weekend. Orderinchaos 01:14, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Meetup 40

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: I created Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/40 hope that's sort of what we talked about last time? Update as needed! :-) Sam Wilson 02:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Meetup 42

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: Given that we are unlikely to get a table at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe for this meetup, and nor even at the B Shed cafe (which is not huge and where there will be a gazillion people), where shall we meet? —Sam Wilson 01:13, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: If I recall correctly from previous years, there will be food available from inside B Shed. A more predictable alternative might be the E Shed food hall. Bahnfrend (talk) 07:55, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Good idea! JarrahTree 08:07, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Saturday afternoons are no good for me as I'll be out sailing on the river. Dan arndt (talk) 08:47, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

B shed or E shed? I'm not familiar enough with them to have an opinion, but currently we have "Location: B shed ... suggests ... food hall at the E Shed Markets". Mitch Ames (talk) 11:52, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Look at a map mitch they are adjacent, B is closer to the water... (more or less if 100 metres or less is the distance between) - probably b - as it is a more visible and smaller area to get lost in JarrahTree 12:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Meetup 43

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: I just heard from the library that we can have our monthly Saturday workshop space, so that's nice. :-) I've created the next meetup page for the same date. Spread the word! Fast wifi and better computers than there used to be. Sam Wilson 08:38, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Meetup 45 and 11th birthday

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, Grant65, Graham87, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/45

please note the 11th birthday and 45th meetup is a combination of things on the day - see - please consider for your social calendar...

We hope to have related associated interested persons from organisations with common interests at the lunch JarrahTree 06:18, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Meetup #47

@Samwilson, Somno, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: I've set up Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/47, hope timing is reasonable. The Studio 001 is not available because they're doing carpeting, so we've been given Discussion Room B instead. Come for the morning, or just for lucnh, or whatever (of course). :-) Sam Wilson 05:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Meetup #51 and #52

@Samwilson, Mitch Ames, Bahnfrend, Grant65, Graham87, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, Orderinchaos, Bjenks, and Evad37: - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/51 and 52 - please note that these events are on alternate days of the weekend to accomodate different times

JarrahTree 06:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added a nav header to Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/51, is that a good idea? Sam Wilson 08:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Meetup #52 reschedule?

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Somno, Grant65, Moondyne, Hesperian, and Samwilson: (sorry, forgot to ping earlier)Sam Wilson 01:33, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/52, there's a clash with Andy arriving on that Sunday afternoon (so he won't be able to come to the meetup). So the plan is to have a meetup on the following Sunday, the 30th (after the week of the conference). Does anyone mind if we reschedule #52, or should we have two? —Sam Wilson 23:24, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

The 30th is more convenient to me, too. Bahnfrend (talk) 01:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I would suggest that the 30th is a better time - (also have added some long time ago last seen at meetup persons as well) JarrahTree 03:00, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

30/09 is doable for me. Dan arndt (talk) 05:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

30th is OK for me. Mitch Ames (talk) 10:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I've changed the event page. Sam Wilson 22:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Meetup #53 Fremantle Maritime Day

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, EurovisionNim, and Pauline Joseph WA: Hi everyone, the next meetup will be at Freo Ports' Maritime Day on Staturday 27 October 2018. Sound good? We'll hopefully be doing something alongside the Australian Association for Maritime History who will have a stall. Sam Wilson 07:00, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Samwilson, LOL, i thought we'd be doing a weekday. Unfortunately this is my exam period, so I won't be free. I'll let you know when things change. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 07:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@EurovisionNim: yes, sorry! It just seems like a great opportunity to go to the Maritime Day, and the AAMH has expressed interest at possibly collaborating that day. :) There's a possibility of something in between though; will keep you in the loop. Sam Wilson 07:26, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Do we have something more specific yet? My interest in maritime history is probably not enough to last 6 hours.... Mitch Ames (talk) 07:52, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Not a totally confirmed schedule yet, but we will have a space for one or two of us on the AAMH stall (including 2 or 3 posters that we provide). How about we aim for a wiki lunch at 1pm? Not sure we'll get a big table at the cafe, but we can see what things are like on the day. If anyone has ideas about what to put on an A3 poster, let me know. Sam Wilson 03:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

lunch at 1pm? — OK. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Perth meetup #54

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, EurovisionNim, and Pauline Joseph WA: The next meetup is next Wednesday evening (we haven't had a weekday evening one for a while). See Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/54 for more. —Sam Wilson 23:35, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Slight issue: Studio001 at SLWA is already booked for the Wednesday evening. Will update here with more news soon. Probably we'll be downstairs again in the little room near the Discovery Centre. Sorry about this. Sam Wilson 06:24, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Yep, the small room on the ground floor it is. Sam Wilson 07:52, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

"afterwards (about 18:30) to food and drinks somewhere ..."
We might consider deciding in advance where we'll go. I recall a previous similar evening meetup had us wandering about for significant time trying to find somewhere suitable. (I'd prefer somewhere quiet.) Mitch Ames (talk) 11:55, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Great idea! Do you have suggestions? (I'm rather ignorant about Northbridge.) Feel free to nominate a place and put it on the page. Somewhere quiet and not too expensive? :) Sam Wilson 12:56, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

We're heading to Picabar for food. 49.196.167.23 (talk) 10:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Perth meetup #55

@Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, EurovisionNim, and Pauline Joseph WA: It's been a while since the last meetup. Anyone interested in having one in, say, Feb? Bahnfrend (talk) 04:50, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

• yeah sounds good Gnangarra 04:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• preferably not Saturday, sailing season... Dan arndt (talk) 05:19, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Hi there - there is planning to have one then anyways - you beat me to the draw - will be having it after Sam returns from OS, and also, when a specific issue has been sorted re the meeting place... keep watch here... JarrahTree 05:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Count me in for any time after Monday Feb 4th. Sam Wilson 18:51, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• I have other commitments on Sat 9th, but otherwise weekends are good. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Any update on the venue? If the usual room is not available, we can just meet in the library cafe. - Evad37 [talk] 23:53, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

sorry for delay in notification folks - should be later today- or Tuesday pm at the latest to have the information... JarrahTree 00:12, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done JarrahTree 07:58, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Perth meetup #56

Is planned to be at the Riverton library in the Cannington area - on a sunday late in March - an interesting insight into where library access in the burbs is not limited to monday to friday JarrahTree 00:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Riverton library contact and hours, map

Re an interesting insight into where library access in the burbs is not limited to monday to friday ...

In my experience - as a regular user of libraries since I was a child, in a variety of Perth metro councils - most suburban libraries are, and have always been, open on Saturday mornings. Certainly all of the Canning and Melville ones are. Also the major library in each city council area (eg Canning/Riverton, Melville, Joondalup, Dianella/Karrinyup) is generally open for at least some of Sunday. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks to Mitch for the details of the library, we await further details.. JarrahTree 13:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Further info on the library is (or should be) on Wikidata: Q56563984 - Evad37 [talk] 13:43, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/56: library doesn't open until 14:00 ... coffee shop ... coffee and chat ... earlier. - Coffee sounds good. Do we want to nominate a time more specific than "earlier"? Mitch Ames (talk) 09:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Good idea. Shall we say 13:15 at the coffeshop? —Sam Wilson 05:04, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

We shall. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:43, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Maritime history

I had a chat this morning with Sally May of the AAMH about helping them learn more about Wikimedia and how to add content. We're thinking of a workshop sometime in the next month, in Fremantle, on a weekend. I'll post more here when I know more, but I just thought I'd mention it now, in case anyone's interested in coming. Sam Wilson 04:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

This is happening this Sunday from 9AM. Mainly aimed at AAMH members. If anyone's interested at coming along to help let me know. —Sam Wilson 04:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

huh? JarrahTree 11:39, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@Samwilson: I can probably come along to help out, but might be a bit after 9. Do you have a more specific location than in Fremantle? - Evad37 [talk] 12:37, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree and Evad37: I've replied to you both by email. —Sam Wilson 01:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

I may also be able to attend. Bahnfrend (talk) 04:05, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: Terrific! It's at WAFIC, unit 1, 56 Marine Terrace (corner of Essex). Sally will meet us at 9AM (to, I think, let us in; I'm not sure if there's public access). If anyone gets there late ping me here or on https://t.me/wikiclubwest to get access. Sam Wilson 07:03, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Samwilson: hey, I'm a bit late but I'm here - Evad37 [talk] 02:19, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Plan

For April, May, June and beyond Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Perth/2019_plan JarrahTree 01:34, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

added city of Canning was waiting for confirmation of details before making public but since a planning doc is there. These will be public everyone is welcome. Gnangarra 03:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

excellent! well done! and thanks for that! JarrahTree 09:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

April meetup

We don't yet have anything planned for April. How about a lunch meetup in the State Library cafe, on the last weekend of the month? (Sat 27th or Sun 28th)

Pinging @Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, and Pauline Joseph WA: - Evad37 [talk] 00:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

before someone goes bold and creates something - please wait before any bold thingoes - thanks for the reminder... JarrahTree 00:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Evad37: Sounds great! I'm keen. @JarrahTree: What are you planning? :-) Sam Wilson 00:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

It is a complicated variety of up to three different options, not that it takes into consideration of the 'herding cats' tendency of organising things, I was sure the last meetup we had actually talked about a possible April item - but then - give it a day or two please to wait patiently... JarrahTree 00:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

• Saturdays are difficult for me at this time of year, please go ahead and make arrangements as you feel necessary I'll attend what I can. Gnangarra 07:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
• Anyone keen for Sunday April 28th at Woodbridge? That's sort of Midland (as JarrahTree suggests on the Plan page), and it's surprisingly poorly photographed. Cafe's open 1–4PM. Sam Wilson 08:00, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
• can be accomodated if there enough seats in cars - still interested in initil meetup in midland for a the golden triangle to be photographed or checked out JarrahTree 09:52, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @JarrahTree: No worries, somewhere closer to a train station might be better then? (Easier than coordinating car travel.) I'm not familiar with Midland cafes; you suggest somewhere. And what is the the golden triangle, by the way? Sam Wilson 04:40, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Inadequately covered in wp en - Midland Town Hall, Midland Post office, Midland library, old Midland Court house, site of former Carnegie library, memorial to traindrivers killed on the kalamunda line, aligned to the great eastern highway start across the midland/midvale/bellevue commercial strip, also just north of where the midland railway company (the first) had its workshops (now centrepoint shoping centre),and where the marshalling yards actually had shunting engines cross the intersection between old post office and a pub onthe opposite corner. There are places for coffee just a 15 minute walk away from the railway station. JarrahTree 04:52, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• Count me in (either Sat or Sun) Mitch Ames (talk) 12:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, and Pauline Joseph WA: Okay, I've bin bold and updated details at Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/57; see what you think. Is 10AM an okay time? The cafe is open 7–3 (not 1–4 as I said above). Sam Wilson 04:00, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @Samwilson: which day, I prefer the sunday Gnangarra 04:25, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
    • @Gnangarra: oops, yep, Sunday! Sam Wilson 04:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

It had been planned for Sunday - cannot do saturday JarrahTree 05:22, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Samwilson: Sorry, I'm tied up and won't make it. Bjenks (talk) 12:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

May meeting and things

Due to a range of issues the May/ Fremantle bridges meeting was not held. Apologies to anticipatory enthusiasts for the loss of that. JarrahTree 09:15, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

The City of Canning events and Toodyay events are coming up soon, are there any ideas for the 60th event being something different or special? JarrahTree 09:47, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

There seems to be a problem with the Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth numbers/links. "Next meetups" currently says:

/58 - 29 June - Toodyay

/59 - 21 July - Riverton

but Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/58 does not mention Toodyay, and Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/59 does. Some renumbering/fix-up is required.

Also on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Perth/2019_plan#Monthly_meetups, and possibly the date for Riverton under Wikipedia:WikiProject_Perth/2019_plan#Scanner/outreach_events (10 July or 21 July, or are they separate events?)

Mitch Ames (talk) 02:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

The question above was are there any idea for the 60th?

Numbers and links are indeed a mess and will in all probability not be solved until further plans have been confirmed in the last week(s) of June. JarrahTree 04:32, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

partial fix. Mitch Ames (talk) 04:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Toodyay

Re Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/59 - is someone coordinating this page with the Shire, or is the Shire watching it? As a courtesy, and "For catering purposes" per the e-mail of Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:04, any additional attendances should be notified to the Shire. (I've already replied to the Shire by e-mail.) Mitch Ames (talk) 02:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: Good point. I'd not quite realised it was an invitation-only event. I guess we're unlikely to get many ring-ins, but still we don't want to be impolite and should make it clear on the event page. I've RSVP'd (with a +1). Sam Wilson 00:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

That needs to be clarified what is happening re the 'invitation' aspect JarrahTree 00:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

I've updated Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/59, but someone might like to update https://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Toodyaypedia_Stage_3_launch. Per the invitation (my emphasis), the Shire are "pleased to invite you to our event celebrating the completion of Toodyaypedia Stage 3 - the creation of 14 new Wikipedia articles about West Toodyay sites". Mitch Ames (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

There is no need to respond individually to the Toodyay council - the meeting is open to anyone, and the response was more to clarify numbers of persons going - that is registered on the page - for catering purposes... JarrahTree 01:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: Thanks for clarifying. I've renamed the WMAU page. I guess I conflated the booklet launch with the stage 3 completion. Sam Wilson 01:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Meetup 61 and WMAU AGM

The next meetup is on Sunday 25th August at South Perth, at 12PM. There's also the Wikimedia Australia AGM at 3PM that same day. I wonder if the meetup should be an earlier hour (e.g. 10AM), to give us time to get to a skype-friendly location by 3PM? —Sam Wilson 04:39, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I say we move South Perth to September for meeting 62 - and have AGM in City in August - am trying to line something up in the next day or so... JarrahTree 04:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, and Pauline Joseph WA: Shall we say 10AM then? At Elizabeth Quay, at the kiosk in the Florence Hummerston Building? Then those of us who are attending the AGM have time to get home or wherever before it starts. —Sam Wilson 07:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I thought the intention was to two carry on through to the AGM as a group rather than everyone head home? Gnangarra 08:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that'd be cool, but we haven't got a venue, and it doesn't sound like there are going to be many people interested in attending the AGM anyway. However, JarrahTree has just edited the meetup page to include a Wiki Takes in the morning, so it sounds like the meetup at 12PM is still good. Sam Wilson 02:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

modified plan

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Samwilson, and Pauline Joseph WA:

OK, now in 3 parts -

In the morning - a 'wiki takes Elizabeth Quay in memory of morethangrass' a memorial jaunt through the footprint the area now places on the fore-shore and area adjacent - for an important member of the wikipedia community who recently died. It will start fairly early, but to find where and what we are up to before and after the morning tea break at 10.00 am - please email JarrahTree.

Lunch - a wikimeetup of interested persons at mid-day - meeting at the kiosk mentioned above

Afternoon - for those so disposed, possible collective re-locating into a suitable location in the city for the WMau AGM.

Hope that clarifies things... JarrahTree 02:23, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good. The AGM venue depends on one of us becoming a Spacecubed member this week, and that is seeming less likely. I'll still maybe find time though. —Sam Wilson 02:34, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

The plan currently is ... culminating in an Elizabeth Quay morning tea - 10.00 a.m. Preceding the mid-day meetup. Are you planning a particularly extravagant morning tea? Is there anything else specific planned between 10 and mid-day? Mitch Ames (talk) 09:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

If you read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_takes_Elizabeth_Quay it should explain what is happening, and it is all dependent upon weather - currently no rain predicted for sunday am. Nothing more elaborate than meeting

JarrahTree 09:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Evening at Riff

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, and Pauline Joseph WA: Thursday 19th September, 5–8PM: anyone feel like coming and trying out this new venue? We've got a new arrangement with Spacecubed in which they give us free meeting space once a fortnight! See the calendar event for more info. Sam Wilson 07:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Please note that these are not the same as weekend meetups, and are a parallel universe - the meetups continue in disparate locations with a wider geographical spread... JarrahTree 07:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

probably better to reduce the number of weekend meetup, how big is the space Gnangarra 13:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

nope - totally different function and purpose - weekends are meetups, thursday nights are more task oriented... JarrahTree 13:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

• @Gnangarra: I'm still keen to do weekend things, because it's nice to get out and about and take photos of things. I don't know what others think, but even if it's only a few of us it still feels worthwhile. I like the idea of an evening thing because a) I like to have dedicated time for editing, and b) we've got access to the venue and it's not costing anything (well, apart from my personal membership of Spacecubed, which I want to do anyway).

  The room can have up to 8 people, and if we grow beyond that they have larger rooms too. Sam Wilson 00:47, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• thanks Sam Gnangarra 00:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I've added a map of which room we're in: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikiclubwest-at-riff/1251 Sam Wilson 01:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I'll be there, but if I have to, I'll call one of the numbers, because I'm not tech savvy enough to know how to ping ... oh, and Sam, you need to correct the address - St George's Terrace is not in Northbridge, and you need to add "45" at the beginning. Bahnfrend (talk) 10:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

2020

It's been a while since the last meetup due to the December meetup being postponed. Would be nice to have a meetup in January - maybe Sunday 19th? (unless there's something else bring planned, but currently wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/64 still says "tba") Pings: @Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, and Dwertyorga: - Evad37 [talk] 05:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Apologies - sorry not very clear - there is a planned meeting for the 1st february... not yet written up JarrahTree 05:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

please note that there is a meeting at Riff - this evening - and the plan for 2020 will be discussed... JarrahTree 05:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I'd be keen for Sunday 19th, if y'all are. @JarrahTree: I'm not sure 'planned' is the right word if there's no record of it anywhere. ;-). Oh, and Thursday nights are still going on at Riff (i.e. tonight and in a fortnight). —Sam Wilson 06:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC) Oops. Edit conflict. What he said. Sam Wilson 06:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

There are some problems - will try to explain this evening if at all possible... JarrahTree 06:17, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I can't make it tonight; may come to the next one. It might still be worth having the 19th, I know that last year at least Sunday worked better than Saturday for some people (and it's potentially the other way around for others) - Evad37 [talk] 06:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I can make either day on the weekend(s). Mitch Ames (talk) 11:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I've scheduled wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/64 for 19 Jan, which can also serve as a slightly late celebration of Wikipedia Day. Just a social meetup, no big deal if anyone misses it since it'll be close to the February one. - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks! Sam Wilson 06:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

epidemiologically speaking

all on hold in line with - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice

as wiki club west the organiser of the event is a branch of a funded body,

by requirements of how things work - on hold until the WHO says otherwise... JarrahTree 00:08, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Virtual meetups

With the suspension of all physical, in-person meetups due to COVID-19, I am thinking about organising some virtual/online meetups instead. These would just be casual chats, without any agenda, much like what many of our social in-person meetups were like (except you'll have to make your own coffee ). What do you all think – would anyone be interested? @Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, and Dwertyorga: - Evad37 [talk] 04:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@Evad37: I think it sounds like a great idea! I'm keen. We can probably use the BigBlueButton video conference service that we've been using for the WMAU community meetings. Do you have an idea of a date and time? Sam Wilson 01:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@Samwilson: I was thinking of using similar days and times as in-person meetups: alternating Saturdays and Sundays, maybe early afternoon (say 1:30pm) so we don't have to see or hear everyone eating their lunch. Not sure how frequently we want these – maybe every second weekend? - Evad37 [talk] 02:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Attending

• Mitch Ames (talk) 12:59, 29 January 2020 (UTC) – Subject to a reasonable location being nominated and non-delay, per #suggested amendment [cancelled]

physical meetups - COVID-19 instructions relevant to the state

If we are required to abide by the official COVId-19 instructions relevant to the state, it would be helpful if a link to the current requirements were included. Ideally a link to a page that actually lists the complete current requirements, rather than one that lists the changes and mentions other requirements without defining them (eg "2 square metre rule"). Mitch Ames (talk) 07:54, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

but if it relates to wiki club west which is in turn part of wmau - the funding to the wmau assumes that practices relate to the official wmf position as well... not sure of the link at this point. will find it later JarrahTree 08:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

which is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Risk_assessment_during_COVID-19/September_2020_-_Introducing_a_new_risk_assessment_tool_and_guidelines_for_in_person_gatherings JarrahTree 08:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Now available as a nice transcludable box {{Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/Guidelines during COVID-19}} - Evad37 [talk] 13:01, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that JarrahTree 13:18, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Meetup 67 (Bayswater)

I would suggest Saturday 24 October as the date for meetup 67. @JarrahTree: What sort of schedule were you thinking of? Something like: meet for the before-lunch photoshoot at 10:45, lunch meetup at approx 12pm, additional photoshooting after lunch? - Evad37 [talk] 03:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Exactly, so if someone didnt want to join in the photos, they still have the opportunity to meetup. You appear to have knowledge of where some of the works will be happening, any chance of a link or possible lead on the actual locations of the new works? JarrahTree 04:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

See https://www.metronet.wa.gov.au/projects/bayswater-station-upgrade - Evad37 [talk] 09:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that... JarrahTree 11:06, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, and Dwertyorga: Meetup is now scheduled for October 24, see Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/67 - Evad37 [talk] 09:40, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

WA Museum Boola Bardip requires booking

Unless anyone's actually booked, the museum is already sold out on Saturday 5 December 2020. Apparently bookings are required until the end of January. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:32, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

That in no way prevents a meeting - there are plenty of things happening in the area to checkout JarrahTree 05:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

I think we should just have the lunchtime meetup then, possibly with an additional wander/photo opportunities afterwards around the cultural centre (e.g. the outside of the museum) and maybe Northbridge or the cbd. - Evad37 [talk] 00:16, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Don't forget to have your papers smartphone ready, under the new mandatory contract tracing rules that come into effect on 5 December. Mitch Ames (talk) 05:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

References

meetups

Although the technicalities might clear meetups of any substantive issues - the low level response to recent meetups suggests a 'break' might be a good idea.

There is the possibility that simply to ascertain whether the wikipedia birthday event in 2021 might be a rallying point.

Some years ago User:Gnangarra organised the wikipedia birthday (I think it was) at the old museum of perth location in Barrack street, and there was a really good turn up - I suggest that due to the nature of the december/january time that we look at February or March and try to get some of the more quieter members of our local community are able to join in a special meetup.

The riff meetings are less onerous as the riff registration is the point where the onus falls. The other things is where the riff meetings work really well is they are usually task oriented - and online and on wiki - for specific tasks - and not social in the sense of the weekend meetings.

It would be great to hear from the less heard, but then it is the time of the year where there is a lot going on. JarrahTree 04:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Mandatory contact rules from 5th December

Thanks to Mitch for the information...

Further to the comments above - the 'mandatory contact tracing rules' in effect change the mode and manner in which the Perth meetups may or may not be in abeyance until such time as such rules are ended. It would be very useful for anyone who has been to meetings in the last seven or eight years, as to whether a holiday from the weekend meetups might be considered until the new year for review of what the rules might do to meetings. Any comments appreciated. JarrahTree 10:05, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

The mandatory contact registers are for businesses and venues as specified by the government [3]. As long as meetups are at venues operated by other organisations or businesses, we should be fine to just record our attendance via the venue's QR code using the app, or in the venue's written register, like any other individual attending that venue. And as long as we are following the local health/covid rules, and keep meetups to ten people or less, then we are still alright by the WMF protocol. So as far as I can see, our casual weekend meetups won't be affected (other than our individual responsibility to record attendance). Not sure about the Thursday nights at Riff though - may be easier to suspend them (if they are still on? pinging Samwilson) - Evad37 [talk] 01:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Evad37 and JarrahTree: Yep, Thursdays are still happening, albeit not 100% of fortnights. I post on wmau:WikiClubWest usually. The venue Riff has an existing sign-in system that's to be used for all people arriving – I don't know if they're going to implement the WAsafe app in addition, but I suspect not because the current system is also tied in with the attendance recording of people who enter with a swipe card. So anyway, I think the Thursdays can continue (if anyone's interested). I'll be there! —Sam Wilson 01:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

The venue Riff has an existing sign-in system that's to be used for all people arriving — that may or may not meet all of the specific requirements at [4].

"If the front doors are closed, message User:... we’ll come and let you in." probably won't meet the government requirements - you should consider updating that.

Mitch Ames (talk) 02:41, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: re the first point, I think either the existing system will suffice, or Riff will change things; they have so many groups meeting there that I'm sure they'll take care to meet all requirements (as they have done so far all year). I'm not sure what you mean about the door-opening though – that's not instead of signing in, it's just what's required after hours because the front sliding doors get locked automatically. People will still have to sign in once they've been let in. —Sam Wilson 03:25, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

2020-2021 transition

remnant from an earlier cancelled meetup 65: [5]

changing due to 65 being resurrected in January 2021 - here for the record...JarrahTree 03:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikitext that was copied from Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/65 replaced with diff - Evad37 [talk] 05:27, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Meeting 70 aka 20th Birthday

As no one has registered as going (or not going) - 70th/20th birthday has been postponed to a later date. JarrahTree 23:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The probability of getting responses might be higher if a future proposal has a specific (or at least proposed, or requests for suggestions for) place and time, which the previous "Details" did not have. The current COVID-19 pandemic (and/or Big Brother's opportunism) may constrain where people will go, and some may not be available for the whole day. Mitch Ames (talk) 04:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your response - quite valid comments indeed - the 20th birthday is something which a range of former editors and some quite 'invisible' editors may or not be gathered or gleaned from the last 18 years + - due to a range of issues - place time and focus are potential rather than decided at this stage - although the official events have happened already, there is the potential to celebrate the 20th into the year. although Mitch your aversion to bureaucracy might simply exclude you from events where requirements might require from you, name, passport number or drivers license number, finger prints, footprint(s), your computer serial number, car rego number, and facial recognition JarrahTree 05:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Location

As per the conversation with Evad re location of the meetup in August, the possible venue is open to question - as there is a quite interesting recent spread of sudden death of establishments in the CBD and suburbs. The possibility of venues not previously explored is open to suggestion - and any suggestion that is not open air, and not atrocious acoustics - will be considered. JarrahTree 08:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I thought the Bayswater Hotel was okay. Open 7 days, good range of food, and just across the road from a railway station, so easily accessible by public transport. I was reminded of the place when I read an article in today's West saying that it is currently for sale. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:39, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Interesting point made - for a range of reasons we were seeking a central location, if we return to regular meetups there are a range of locations well worth exploring that are not Perth CBD. JarrahTree 14:02, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: What are the reasons? Bayswater (or anywhere within cooee of a train station) seems pretty good.

How about The Island at Elizabeth Quay? That's got reasonable acoustics I think. Sam Wilson 02:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Bahnfrend (talk) 11:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Starting up again?

@Bahnfrend, Dan arndt, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, and Samwilson:
It's been a while... is anyone else interested in resuming our casual meetups for some friendly chats with food/drinks? If so, would Saturdays or Sundays work better? Cheers, - Evad37 [talk] 09:10, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I'd be interested. Either day works for me. Mitch Ames (talk) 09:13, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I'd prefer a sunday morning, but will try to make other time work. Gnangarra 09:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

On close examination there are also other recent (in the last 6 months) editors who could be asked as well... JarrahTree 10:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

And they are ... ? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:06, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

It has happened in the full history of this group, that there are editors of topics in western australia, who do not even identify that they are resident in Western Australia or Perth, and choose not to identify themselves in any way. If there are current editors of Perth or Western Australia who have not ticked themselves in the lists of editors in Perth or WA, and who choose to remain anonymous, that is their perogative. As a consequence in understanding of the privacy issues, those who may be invited are being asked confidentially to allow them to remain unknown. We have had at least two long term editors who have insisted on their privacy, and their definite and total lack of interest attending meetups. For the moment the invitations are in private. It wouldnt take much to deduce from a close check the range of WA edits in the last year or so to get a handle on possible range of potential editors. I fail to see the necessity of asking and they are ... in view of the issues explained. JarrahTree 12:23, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I fail to see the necessity of asking — When you posted "other .. editors who could be asked", using the conditional word "could", it was not obvious that you (or anyone else) were going to issue such invitations elsewhere. It would seem to be a waste of time for all of us to do a "close examination" of "the last 6 months" of edits to find those editors and ping them, post on their talk pages, or e-mail them etc, so it occurred to me that you might like to share the fruits of your labour, so that we could extend invitations to them. If you have, in fact, already invited them, that's fine. Had you mentioned that in your original post, it would probably have required less typing for both of us. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I’m up for a catch-up. Dan arndt (talk) 10:26, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm keen. Saturday or Sunday, doesn't matter to me. —Sam Wilson 01:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, this oldie will be staying home. Bjenks (talk) 03:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I've been vaccinated, so I'm not dangerous. Either day would be okay with me. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

The meetup is currently scheduled for 8 August. Is anyone interested in delaying it by a week, so that it would coincide with the online Wikimania 2021? – see this Wikimania page (2021:In-person events) for a list of other meetups around the world that have been so scheduled. (Another possible arrangement might be a second meetup on the weekend of 14-15 August.) Bahnfrend (talk) 14:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like a good suggestion to move it to the linked item that Bahfrend identifies... support - if most of the rest can do do JarrahTree 07:40, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Other than the brownie points accrued by adding the event to the list, what difference does it make to us whether the meetup coincides with the mania? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The possible differences are limited only by the participants' collective imaginations. See, eg, the Berlin meetup page and the Utrecht meetup page, both of which describe several different proposed activities (both pages can be translated with Google Translate). Additionally, a number of the Perth meetup regulars either have attended earlier Wikimanias or are involved in organising Wikimania 2021. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

I Google-translated the pages but could not find anything in the translated text that appeared to require that the event be held on the same date as Wikimania. (One could, for example, hold a BBQ independently of Wikimania.) Perhaps the translation is not good enough, or I've missed something. Perhaps a human-translated quote of a relevant section would help. Or a specific local, English, suggestion from someone more imaginative than me. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:42, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Bahnfrend has answered very well - and I would consider the change appropriate, and well thought through - and well linked. I do hope that others will be able to get to the meetup. JarrahTree 13:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Mitch didn't ask whether there was anything that required the events in other cities to be held on the same date as Wikimania. If that had been the question, my answer would have been "no". The question I was answering was what difference would it make to us if our event were rescheduled to coincide with Wikimania. Bahnfrend (talk) 04:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm happy to move to the following week. Or we could do a 2nd event, specifically for Wikimania — I could book us a room at Riff in St George's Terrace, if we want somewhere to do editing (there's good wifi)? I think there's more than just brownie points to be gained from being seen to be part of Wikimania (it could also help spread the word to people not watching this page). Although, I also don't think there's a problem with listing a local event on 8 August on that Wikimania page. Sam Wilson 02:45, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I'd prefer separate events for "in person meetup and chat face-to-face" vs "editing or chat to people online", or otherwise specific times (same day/place) for each. I would like to meet and chat in person, but am not interested in editing or online chatting at a physical meetup. If I'm going to be using a computer I'd rather be using a decent keyboard and two larger monitors than a laptop. Mitch Ames (talk) 03:29, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Sam. Listing the 8 August meeting and also organising a second meeting at Riff sounds like an excellent idea. As we haven't had any meetups at all so far this year, a second meetup a week after the first one wouldn't be excessive. One option might be to list it as a half hour "Unconference" session beginning at, say, 9.00am UTC Saturday 14 August (5 pm Perth time). Maybe as an informal discussion of what we Perth-based Wikimedians get up to here (Freopedia, Noongarpedia, etc). Bahnfrend (talk) 09:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Great! I'll ask about availability of a room at Riff for the 14th. Sam Wilson 09:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Okay, we have the 'Big' room (table space for about 10 people, with big monitor for presenting but no webcam) booked from 5PM on Saturday 14th. If we want to stay that long, the ESEAP get together is at 7PM that evening. Sam Wilson 02:04, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Sounds sensible. I'm certainly keen for a non-computer meetup as well. Anyone else interested in a Wikimania editing session, at a different time and place to the social meetup? Sam Wilson 09:01, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I strongly support the separation of the two varieties of meetup - (and that way is what had been actually happening before the plague) - there was the option for the task oriented computer editing - and the social computer free - the 14th is a chance for those interested in the correlation to the wider community and well worth having. JarrahTree 09:08, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I've now updated Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/71 to make it cover the 14 August event. Bahnfrend (talk) 11:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I've added a calendar event to the WMAU site, with a floor plan of which room we're in. Sam Wilson 03:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

September meetup

I've started Wp:Meetup/Perth/72 for September's meetup in Fremantle. Anyone got a suggestion for the venue? - Evad37 [talk] 05:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Anywhere quiet. Mitch Ames (talk) 07:14, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

It should be a criterion of choosing meeting places that have low level background noise, due to the difficulty of dealing with simple conversation with a range of noisy devices in operation and noisy drinkers. JarrahTree 07:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

top floor of The National Hotel, views across Freo if we reserve the space we can ask for no music while there. https://www.nationalhotelfremantle.com.au/the-rooftop We could invite a few of the locals to join us Gnangarra 16:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

It can get a bit busy up there, but yeah it'd be a nice place to meet. Who wants to book it? Another outdoors pub that's a bit less popular is the front bit of the Esplanade (the Ball and Chain). Or, the beer garden at the Federal (they have music later on Sundays, but I think at lunch it's okay). Or the new outside microbrewery in Bannister Street, Clamity's Rod. Sam Wilson 04:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

acoustics is important - whichever of the locations has the lowest db ratings... JarrahTree 04:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Have we made a decision? :) If we turn up somewhere at 11:30 it should be possible to find space, surely? Sam Wilson 05:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

I have suggested on the meetup page - that we meet in the mall across from the National and it gives a possibility of checking a few places out within a short distance... JarrahTree 09:52, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

@JarrahTree Sounds good! Sam Wilson 10:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

November meetup

Is there interest in a meetup during November. Two options a casual get together somewhere quiet, or would there be interest in going on drive out yonder will hire a comfy van 6-10 seater explore the Toodyay-Goomalling-Northam area. Gnangarra 17:04, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

• acknowledge no interest, I wont make any plans Gnangarra 23:20, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
• My Saturdays are taken up with sailing at the moment. Dan arndt (talk) 05:59, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@Gnangarra, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG: I'm interested but you didn't ping me (or anyone else). Bahnfrend (talk) 05:21, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

@Gnangarra and Bahnfrend: I'm keen! Not sure about a long trip out of town, but a lunch thing somewhere would be nice. I'd wondered about exploring the East Perth Cemeteries, and maybe lunch at Claisebrook Cove? Not sure what the acoustics are like there (the cafe, I mean; I guess the graves are quiet). —Sam Wilson 05:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Apologies of absence from this point of contact - my memory of the last 2 meetups we had I was trying before them to see if some of our currently prolific editors on topics perth/wa might be interested - and had a resounding silence or insistence on privacy - I support the two main suggestions, and thanks the editors for putting them up - I do hope others see the positives in the suggestions and get involved!!

* Gnangarra's suggestion of the country drive is excellent - as it lies at the end of wikipedia 20th birthday, as well being the 8th Birthday of Toodyaypedia, and getting very close to the Wiki Club West aka WA Wikipedia meetup group 15th Birthday (February next year) - also in the time since the birth of Toodyaypedia - so much has happened in the wheatbelt of Western Australia in the time that has passed - a van trip would be an excellent review of a landscape that is changing in front of us within our short time as an organised group... There are things that are happening even in Toodyay that are different from eight years ago, and a re-visit is a very good idea to give us a reminder of the wikitown, and what it shows what can be done utilising wikipedia work on commons and wikidata and english wikipedia.

** I would support the idea and hope others might be interested enough as well

* Gnangarra's suggestion of somewhere quiet is also an essential if not basic need for a meetup - there were places in the first 5 years of meetup that simply were hopeless for ambient roar/music/people shouting to be heard

* SamWilsons idea of the claisebrook area is also a very good one - the range of things - (heritage buildings/sites), current notable features - is appealing. Close to public transport, as well as interesting extra attractions with potential...

** I would support the idea and again hope others realise the potential of the area

If you know of a local editor who hasnt insisted on privacy - why not ask directly as well? The outreach is worth the effort, as it will be the last event for 2021 and worth making an effort to get to - even some retired/lapsed/not edited for a while people might be encouraged as well to catch up ... JarrahTree 06:59, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

second call

@Gnangarra @JarrahTree @Dan arndt @Bahnfrend: Re the East Perth Cemeteries, it seems that it's only open 2–4PM on Sundays. What weekend is good? I made a scheduler, if that's of use: https://wudele.toolforge.org/6Rth7fQMdiV5yLFy Sam Wilson 00:49, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

If I'm available I will make the effort to attend - enjoy catching up whilst we are not in a COVID19 lockdown. Dan arndt (talk) 11:20, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

There could easily be 2 events close together - maybe just a car load to the avon valley one week - or 2 if there are the numbers -

as well as an end of year lunch in the claisebrook area - on to a small reconnaisance of the east perth cemetery...

. JarrahTree 15:28, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

July meetup???

@Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG: I think it's about time we got the regular Perth meetups going again. For the sake of simplicity, may I suggest Saturday 23 July at the State Library cafe? Bahnfrend (talk) 14:42, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Time? Mitch Ames (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

[6][7] both say Ground+Co Cafe is only open Mon-Fri. Is there another cafe at the library? Suggestions for alternative venue? Mitch Ames (talk) 05:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• The library does not have multiple cafes, being so close to the northbridge area, there are alternatives, preferably a field trip prior to the event is required to ascertain sound levels, I for one am not interested in noisy venues. JarrahTree 09:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

  +1 prefer quieter venue. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• I'd definitely consider provided the Covid threat is reduced. Bjenks (talk) 15:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
• I'll be there (assuming that no significant changes to the government health measures before then). Mitch Ames (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
• coffee! I'm in Gnangarra 01:18, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
• I should be good... Dan arndt (talk) 04:06, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• Have had my 3 jabs but still got COVID, so being a spreader is no longer a possibilty for the time being.Dan arndt (talk) 10:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Alright, I'll work out a different venue (nearby), set up the appropriate meetup page and add to this page a link to that page. For the benefit of @Bjenks: I've been vaccinated four times, and all attendees should bring a mask. Bahnfrend (talk) 06:51, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• Sounds good. I'll be there. The new museum café might be a good option? Or we could get takeaways and go and sit somewhere outside nearby (that'd be quieter and have less Covid risk). If it's good weather. Sam Wilson 01:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames and Samwilson: The cafe at the Art Gallery of WA is another option. Although at first glance it seems to be a fair bit less expensive than the Epoch Cafe at the renovated WA Museum, the prices for toasted sandwiches at the two cafes appear to be similar. Maybe we should just go for the Museum cafe for no reason other than that it's new. Either way, planning to eat outside in Perth in late July would seem to be a bit optimistic ... Bahnfrend (talk) 13:03, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

assuming bad weather - inside is good idea... JarrahTree 13:17, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: Either sounds fine, I reckon. Is the art gallery cafe different to how it used to be, since all the renovations? And yeah, outside is probably a bit unlikely. :) Sam Wilson 23:45, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Update from a short visit today 30th June 2022 - if the weather is like today (fine and clear) - the options could also include Pollys and Livingstones - they claim that on saturdays they are open until 2 - the art gallery and epoch/museum cofee shops are open at the same time as the host establishment.

In the event of wet weather, epoch/museum would be the only worthwhile available to sit down (it was suggested that to book a table would be a good idea in the possibility of bad weather). Art gallery, pollys and livingstones are simply not wet/windy weather locations, unless there is something at the art gallery comes out for the frisky and wet times, I couldnt see it today.

For the 'stayers' the Art Gallery roof top bar opens at 3 pm... highly recommended by a person at the art gallery coffee shop today.

Again, with weather like today, it seems like a reasonable extension... JarrahTree 05:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

OK. I've pencilled in for [some time, some place] Sat 23 July. I had a phone chat with an Art Gallery admin bird who advises against our group's using the rooftop venue on account of their loud music as well as possible bad weather. Bjenks (talk) 07:29, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

That was only conditional of having had a meetup earlier and then those who so choose might want to progress after 3 pm the possibility of photos from the roof rather than linger long with noise or whatever... JarrahTree 07:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

I had a quick look late yesterday at the Art Gallery cafe. It's about 2/3 outside, and therefore not the best choice for mid winter. I will therefore arrange a booking for half a dozen people at the Museum. Bahnfrend (talk) 06:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: Thanks for the invite! I'll try to be there! Is it at 12:00 this Saturday?

September, October 2022

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG:

We've now set the dates for both of these meetups (17 Sep and 9 Oct). The latter date will coincide with a visit to Perth by @MargaretRDonald: Bahnfrend (talk) 05:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

• I'm in for both, can I suggest somewhere in North Coogee for september, there is the ever faithful DOME but I can go check the area to see if the other options as there are a few. Gnangarra 08:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes, please, go right ahead. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:25, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
    • @Gnangarra: Do we have a venue yet for 17 September? – only 2½ days to go now ... Bahnfrend (talk) 12:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
      • I still waiting to hear back from Dome Port Coogee to confirm they'll book a space there for us Gnangarra 08:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
        • I'll just make it there anyway. The worst that could happen is that we might have to sit and wait outside for a few minutes. Bahnfrend (talk) 07:19, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm a tentative yes for both! MavropaliasG (talk) 08:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for the invite @Bahnfrend and JarrahTree: and I am hoping I will be able to make it. Do we have a time and a place?MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:04, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
• @MargaretRDonald: We have a time (which could be changed somewhat if inconvenient to you). I suggest you watch this page for the place: Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/76 Bahnfrend (talk) 02:39, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

October meetup ... and editing of Wikidata

Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/76 currently says there will be "conversation with coffee and cake, and much discussion and editing of Wikidata". I'm all for conversation, coffee, cake and discussion, but I'm not interested in sitting there staring at a screen and typing. (If I wanted to do that I'd do it at home with better, less portable, hardware.) Can we nominate specific times for the human (and cake) interaction vs the editing / screen interaction? Mitch Ames (talk) 23:59, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Maybe a small misunderstanding or three here... Visiting champion of wikidata work person is not staring at a screen and typing. Eating cake is not staring at a screen and typing. Birthday parties are not staring at a screen and typing. It is likelihood that birthday party/cake and celebration requires pictures of those present for the wider world to understand why wikidata is an important part of the larger wikipedia project. It is likely that the cake and celebration part will occur somewhere in the 10-11 time shot if youre only going for the cake. But time will tell, and any literalist reading of anything written about the event before the event may well be governed by circumstances beyond control. It's all about Enjoy! Party time! to celebrate wikidata and the presence of one of oz's great wikidata contributors. JarrahTree 01:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes sorry, that was me just typing stuff. I didn't mean it had to be a full-on editing session, and you're right the more communal aspects are more interesting. We will have a largish screen available if anyone wants to demo anything, and the Wikidata focus is because it's the 10th birthday. But there's no compulsion on anyone to edit anything if they don't want to. Sam Wilson 01:58, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Presumably someone will photograph the cake before it is cut, so that the picture can be uploaded to Commons (and then maybe added to Wikidata). Bahnfrend (talk) 03:24, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Definitely! It shall at least be tagged as a birthday cake (Q1195276). :-) Sam Wilson 07:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

77

Sunday afternoon preferred, as the Saturday am was an exception due to various constraints for 76 - JarrahTree 04:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Any suggestions for date/time/location yet? Either day is fine for me. Mitch Ames (talk) 01:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I've postponed this event, and will probably suggest a new date after next week's conferences in Sydney. Bahnfrend (talk) 01:23, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

77 again

@Bjenks, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG:

It's been too long since the last meetup. How about Sat 25 March? Bahnfrend (talk) 04:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Pls record my apols. Bjenks (talk) 04:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Sat 25 March sounds good to me. Mitch Ames (talk) 05:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Saturday afternoon I will be out sailing on the river... Dan arndt (talk) 05:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Sunday 26th sounds just as good - why not? JarrahTree 11:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Either day, and any reasonable time, is fine by me. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I'll make it Sunday 26/3 to suit @Dan arndt:. Can someone suggest a venue and set a time? Bahnfrend (talk) 11:53, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm an apology for Sunday, am off on an OpenStreetMap day out (this). Sam Wilson 12:36, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

• Given the current status of the Wikimania Scholarship process, I'm not sure it would be appropriate for me to attend. For now set the date and I'll consider the other implications. Gnangarra 06:13, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Sunday 26th - the 77th meeting will be happening! Apologies for delay in the details.

Please see the page for details, thanks... JarrahTree 09:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)