Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Perth/Archive 1

Sounds like a great idea! What sort of venues are good for this kind of thing? Orderinchaos 06:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

forward planning - meetup #2

I'm thinking this we get better organised and plan the next meeting for either a saturday or sunday. I we plan further in advance maybe we can get people but also choose a venue, maybe do some planning to gain access to somewhere or someone.

There is the possibility of organising some form of transport from a couple of locations to the venue(s). This would require some small cost recoveries. Gnangarra 12:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. Is there any ideas as to venue preferences? City or suburbs? I'm in the North around Joondalup, but i'm free and easy on all locations. Weekends also sound good. thewinchester 12:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Th situation is that the CBD as a central location was great for the first meetup, but that isnt necessary for the furture meets so do you have any suggestions Gnangarra 02:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposal - a meeting near or in the vicinity of the Fremantle Railway Station/Harbour - for those with nautical bent perhaps - then the meetings to follow - could well be in locations scattered such as Joondalup civic centre (for the northern suburbs editors?) - one time - and perhaps in long term - Mandurah and Mundaring weir... that should give articles/commons a boost for those areas if we are going on weekends... however a lot depends on consensus and what others might feel ! SatuSuro 04:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It should either be near public transport or have a situation where we can organise a pickup along the likes Gnangarra suggested (i.e. we contribute a small amount to it). Quite a few would be depending on it to get to/from. Orderinchaos 05:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Great. I'm a bucket of ideas filled with one idea only. If you like Chinese food, around Northbridge (especially James Street) are a bunch of Yum Cha Chinese restaurant. And on 24 April, I'm two days back from China myself., I know two reputable and two repulsive ones. They come around with food on carts and you just choose. Delish. Auroranorth 11:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Why not make it in like a library in the city? thats central (has loads of public transport and/or alternative transport for everyone) and people can also do their shopping while they are there too =) Smbarnzy 12:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Meetup 5

Thinking its about time SatuSuro has the opportunity to buy some of those drinks he's keep saying[1] he owes. any When & Where suggestion? Gnangarra 00:58, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

July - city - for whoever is left from the editors list, or in the photos with jimbo the other year SatuSuro 01:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Preferably later than earlier - after my immediate business clears I'm going to have a huge backlog of administrivia to deal with. Orderinchaos 08:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Later in july sounds good - giving enough warning with that is good SatuSuro 08:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

So long as it's during a weekend I'm fine for late July. Before about the 20th of July I can make it any day of the week. - Mark 11:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Weekend sounds good to me if possible. Orderinchaos 14:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Am guessing that July is almost over and no decision made :( my preference is in August - when the sun finally makes a re-appearance. Dan arndt (talk) 06:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• How about Sunday breakfast meeting on Aug 3 Gnangarra 06:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me - as long as it's not *too* early - the trains kick in around 7:15-7:30am if I recall. Orderinchaos 21:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Have my son's Auskick match Sunday mornings...Dan arndt (talk) 03:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Did this proposal go anywhere, or should we try to plan something new? Orderinchaos 12:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

August - maybe at the end of this month - Sunday 31st? Dan arndt (talk) 07:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

It's bit late now for August, next weekend is the election and Father's Day, so the 14th is the next available Sunday. TRS-80 (talk) 07:02, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, 14 Sep seems reasonable. Will wait to see what others' timetables look like. I think we should try to actually organise it for 14 or 21 Sep if there are enough takers, as this has been in the planning for way too long. :) Orderinchaos 19:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Sunday 14th or the 21st at this stage look reasonable to me. Dan arndt (talk) 01:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Anything happen with this idea? — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 01:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm committed to most of the 14th and 21st. Sorry. Moondyne 02:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I've become too busy to honour my own suggestion as well. The next good time, in my opinion, would be end of November/beginning of December, when things have slowed down for most people but they haven't yet gone on holidays. Of course if somebody visits us from afar and is only here for a short time we may be able to get one or two people to meet them over a coffee, that's never out of the question. :) Orderinchaos 05:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

November

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29 Nov. Say 2pm? 3pm

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Meetup 7

August 20th 2011. Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Perth/7.

I tend to favour the city as well :) We met outside the State Library last time, which is 2 mins walk from the train station, but went to the bar to actually chat. A (reasonably cheap) cafe wouldn't be a bad bet - I'm sure I'm not the only one short on cash atm. Orderinchaos 13:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I am starting to think Subiaco might be worth considering for cafes. Many of them open early and do breakfasts. For those of us on public transport it's only 6-8 mins further along (or closer if one's coming from Freo). Orderinchaos 10:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Perth 2?

Expressions of interest are being sought for a second Meetup of WA Wikipedians. As I... am not of the 'type', if I go, no drinking! See my user page for a link. Auroranorth 11:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, I find the idea of meeting up with a child (in the legal sense - I don't mean to belittle you) that I met on the internet rather worrisome. Count me out. Hesperian 11:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say child... but you can normally tell a person's characteristics by their sophistication of speech. I might not even attend. Auroranorth 11:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It;'s not a question of whether your a child/teenager until your 18 your not an adult. I agree with Hesperian that legal implications, social standards and discomfort to other people could be an issue. I'd suggest that you dont organise meetups but consider attending appropriate meetups where you are able to have a responsible adult(parent, Uncle/Aunty etc) escort you. Gnangarra 11:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

That's a good point Gnangarra. I would be comfortable meeting up with Auroranorth if s/he was accompanied by a responsible adult. Hesperian 12:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I hate the word teenager, and like to consider myself as a minor (not minor, that's derogatory). In legal terms, a minor is a person under eighteen. I'm male and I don't think I can state my age under U.S. COPPA laws. Great ideas to all. Anyway, I'd obviously have to travel with an adult, wouldn't I, living 30 min out from the city. Auroranorth 08:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Count me out too - I can't really take a risk like this considering my occupation and the possibility of misunderstandings. Orderinchaos 14:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably won't even go... Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 09:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Minors

Since the attendance of Minors has raised some serious and valid concerns I propose:

All meetups are to be restricted to Adults unless otherwise indicated.

The alternative would be to ask minors to identify themselves as such so that other attendees are aware of that, something I would prefer not to see as could attract unwanted attention. Gnangarra 09:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Support Orderinchaos 10:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that should be phrased as All minors must announce their intentions of attending meetups and state their age and method of transport. Minors should always be accompanied by an adult. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 09:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but as long as we are treating this as a WP:WA event, I don't see how we can morally refuse access to a minor who is accompanied by a guardian. Either it's a WP:WA event, in which case it's open slather for anyone who wants to come, including minors and their guardians... or its a few mates meeting down the pub for a beer and a chat, in which case those mates can invite whomsoever they want, but ought not call it a WP:WA Meetup. Hesperian 11:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Support Gnangarra's proposal. It doesn't matter what we call it, the principle is the same. If a minor turns up, with or without a guardian, I'm gone. I have better things to do with my life than worry about responsibilities I don't need. —Moondyne 12:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm in the same boat - the nature of my training and future career is such that I have to be very careful from a public liability point of view with anything involving children. It's a risk I don't need to take. Orderinchaos 12:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

While there is a moral issue in refusing entry, I argue the legal and common sense angles of the matter as a reason against refusing attendance to unaccompanied minors. From the legal angle, should an unaccompanied minor choose to attend these meetings without supervision of a responsible adult, then the liability of responsibility would transfer by default to the person or persons he or she was meeting. We are legally not in a personal position to accept responsibility for such persons as we do not know enough about them to assure their safe participation and return let alone contact of a parent or guardian should an unforeseeable event or accident arise. On a common sense angle, as a Parent they would be obviously be concerned if their minor was going to meet a group of older people they may or may not have met online to discuss issues arising from the online realm. Somehow a parent would be mighty freaked out if you asked me. A sidepoint to this is any potential venue would have to be teenage friendly, thus it rules bars, restaurants which serve alcohol, etc out as venues particularly if they are unaccompanied. Unless any minor attending is chaperoned by a responsable adult for the duration of their participation then it is totally unworkable for such persons to attend. thewinchester 11:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

You're preaching to the converted, mate. See above, where I was first to put this position:

"Frankly, I find the idea of meeting up with a child (in the legal sense - I don't mean to belittle you) that I met on the internet rather worrisome. Count me out."

There is no way that I would agree to meetup with a minor who is unaccompanied by a guardian, for all the reasons you've outlined above. What I said just now (or meant to say, anyhow) was: if a minor is accompanied by a guardian, I don't see how we can morally refuse them access to a WP:WA event. Those of us who have a problem with meeting up with minors, even if they are accompanied by a guardian, have the option of declining to attend, and instead organising our own informal gatherings. That seems fair to me; banning minors from WP:WA events does not.

Hesperian 12:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll withdraw the proposal as I didnt intend it as a ban on anyone, if a minor did choose to attend providing they were accompanied by a responsible adult I wouldnt have a problem. As a parent I wouldnt let my kids attend something like this unaccompanied. Gnangarra 12:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for Meetup 3

After some off wiki discussions it was suggested that we organise a meetup during August, the suggested venue is Tranby House in Maylands.

What we need to decide first is date and time. (I'll then contact the venue and ensure its available.) Gnangarra 03:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess our choices are a weeknight or a Sat/Sun afternoon. Which is most convenient for most people? Orderinchaos 03:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

With this venue as it and its cafe are only open during the day, with sat/Sun most likely. Gnangarra 04:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Public transport, bus from city it readily accessable Gnangarra 04:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Good choice of location. Hesperian 04:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Works for me. Thewinchester ^(talk) 07:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

preferred date? Gnangarra 08:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

How's Sunday 19 August @ 2pm for everyone? —Moondyne 08:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for moving quickly just realised that Tranby is closed from 1st July until 1st August so a booking needed to be made this week, I have booked for Sun 19th @ 2pm Gnangarra 03:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Access

• The 43 bus goes from the BusPort, Via Barrack st and the WA Museum, to Tranby Journey time 25 minutes every day. Gnangarra 04:15, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Meetup 4

Maybe we should consider a regional venue for a midweek evening meetup or alternatively a weekend cultured afternoon. Gnangarra 02:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I like the cultured view personallyTwenty Years 07:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Have any plans materialised yet or are people still unavailable at this point? Orderinchaos 15:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Next meetup/Perth/4

When date and venue are decided I'd like to attend. Wiki beginner, not a 'minor'. Powderbark2 03:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)