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@Nikkimaria: this is still open. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

FASA nomination North8000

I nominate North8000 for a Featured article save award for improvements to USS Missouri (BB-63) during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Hog Farm _Talk 02:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion North8000

1. Support Hog Farm _Talk 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
2. Support Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
3. Support, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
4. Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
5. Support –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Sturmvogel 66

I nominate Sturmvogel 66 for a Featured article save award for improvements to USS Missouri (BB-63) during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Hog Farm _Talk 02:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion Sturmvogel 66

1. Support Hog Farm _Talk 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
2. Support Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
3. Support, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
4. Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
5. Support –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

HF

• "and was the third ship of the United States Navy to be named after the U.S. state of Missouri." - this appears to be accurate but isn't sourced anywhere
• Should the grounding incident be mentioned in the lead since it's significant enough to have its own article?
• Infobox specifies that the anti-aircraft armament was Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, but the body isn't that specific
• The figures for deck and barbette armor don't seem to match between the main body and the infobox?
• The order date from the infobox should be mentioned in the main body
• " News media proclaimed her a symbol of U.S. interest in preserving both nations' independence" - DANFS states that the two nations are Greece and Turkey, but it's not clear from the article that Turkey is intended as one.
• Some of the 1984 refit details from the infobox don't seem to be cited/mentioned in the body
• There's a CN spot in the Gulf War section
• "Those familiar with the incident are skeptical of this account, however, as Jarrett was reportedly over 2 mi (3.2 km) away at the time and the characteristics of chaff are such that a Phalanx would not normally regard it as a threat and engage it." - I can't find much of this other than the distance between the two vessels in the linked source, which is a slightly-redacted official accident report. I'm considered that original research may have snuck in
• " after serving a total of 17 years of active service" - body says 16 years
• CN spot in the museum ship section
• I don't think three of the web sources are good enough quality for FA - Roadside America, A Life Aloft, and Seaforces

This looks doable, although I'm afraid I don't have much good sourcing for this one - @TomStar81, Parsecboy, and North8000: Hog Farm _Talk 23:42, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Using books that I just bought and read, I can fix everything pre-1995.....of course everyone else is welcome to beat me to it. North8000 (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Worksheet for Hog Farm's list

• "and was the third ship of the United States Navy to be named after the U.S. state of Missouri." - this appears to be accurate but isn't sourced anywhere

• Resolved. Copied the statement to the body. Found and added a reference there. North8000 (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• Should the grounding incident be mentioned in the lead since it's significant enough to have its own article?

Either way, right now I'm building the grounding coverage a bit and getting it cited to Butler. I haven't looked at the article history but suspect that the reason it has a separate article is because there is such a large amount of interesting material and it needs a lot of space to really cover it. I'm near-neutral on putting it in the lead. North8000 (talk) 10:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Done. I put a sentence on it in the lead.North8000 (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

• Infobox specifies that the anti-aircraft armament was Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, but the body isn't that specific

  Resolved. I don't see anything that specific in the info box or in the article. Maybe someone took it out. North8000 (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• The figures for deck and barbette armor don't seem to match between the main body and the infobox?

  Done. Figured out, reconciled and sourced.North8000 (talk) 02:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

• The order date from the infobox should be mentioned in the main body

  Done. North8000 (talk) 13:29, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

• " News media proclaimed her a symbol of U.S. interest in preserving both nations' independence" - DANFS states that the two nations are Greece and Turkey, but it's not clear from the article that Turkey is intended as one.

  Fixed. Specified both per source North8000 (talk) 02:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• Some of the 1984 refit details from the infobox don't seem to be cited/mentioned in the body

  Fixed. I added them to the body and cited/reference them

• There's a CN spot in the Gulf War section

Done. Tweaked it to make it cite-able, and cited it. North8000 (talk) 02:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Those familiar with the incident are skeptical of this account, however, as Jarrett was reportedly over 2 mi (3.2 km) away at the time and the characteristics of chaff are such that a Phalanx would not normally regard it as a threat and engage it." - I can't find much of this other than the distance between the two vessels in the linked source, which is a slightly-redacted official accident report. I'm considered that original research may have snuck in

  Fixed. I pared some non-verifiable material (which was also superfluous) and added extra cites on what remains. Also fixed one minor error. (changed shrapnel to debris) North8000 (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

• " after serving a total of 17 years of active service" - body says 16 years

  Fixed Took them both out. Vague summary that was not in the source nor in any source that I could find.North8000 (talk) 01:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• CN spot in the museum ship section

Resolved. (by others) North8000 (talk) 02:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

• I don't think three of the web sources are good enough quality for FA
  • Roadside America

    Fixed. Removed source and material dependent on it what was of low importance and relevance.North8000 (talk) 22:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

  • A Life Aloft (3 uses)
    • Replaced with a better ref at the first of its three uses. North8000 (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Replaced with a better ref at the second of its three uses. North8000 (talk) 13:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Removed the 3rd and the material dependent on it North8000 (talk) 13:51, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Seaforces

    Fixed in the same fix noted a couple lines up on 6/26/22. North8000 (talk) 00:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

North8000 (talk) 00:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: I just fixed the last item.North8000 (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)