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The following discussion is an archived article review. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article Talk: page or in a new review.
The result of the discussion was A Successful Promotion.
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Bob Chappuis

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Passed --Eurocopter (talk) 12:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This has failed a couple of FACs so I thought I would get a new set of eyes on this.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments First, I don't understand why there are two infoboxes. Also, the references section at the bottom should be formatted correctly. Other than that, looks good. Cheers, ṜedMarkViolinistDrop me a line 19:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support
Resolved comments by Stepshep

Other than those everything looks good. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 06:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support
    • First of all, get rid of the No Free image in the second infobox. Obviously there is one, it's above. Either remove that parameter, or, if there's a picture of him in a military uniform or related to the military add that.
    • "his father was an executive with a porcelain products company who had played quarterback for Denison University," Wait a minute, how does a porcelain company play American football? While this is obviously not what you mean, the only way to tell this is by the use of the pronoun who. It could be rephrased as something along the lines of his father — who had played quarterback for Denison University — was an executive with..."
    • "He flew his first mission, which was targeting a railroad bridge in the heavily-fortified Brenner Pass on Christmas Day 1944." Eh? You just said he sank a cruiser in September 1944...Christmas Day is not in September.
      • I am not a military guy and am not sure I understand the contradiction. Can one's crew sink a ship without one flying a mission? I am not really sure what the term crew even means precisely in this context.
        • Yeah, flying a mission is going up in a plane, in this case presumably to bomb a target. I would assume that the crew, in this case, refers to the people on the bomber (pilot, copilot, bombardier, navigator, radioman, and gunners). In order for a bomber to sink a ship, they would have to get in the plane, fly to the ship, and drop bombs on it (fly a mission), so the article is self-contradictory there.
          • If one's crew does something, does it mean that you were there? If I say my friends went some where, it is different than saying me and my friends went somewhere. The article does not say he earned a citation and he has no military decorations in his infobox. Presumably, he wasn't on the mission, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
            • I suppose not, but if, say, I'm a crew member on a ship, and the ship goes somewhere, it's implied that I did. Hence, if he's a crew member on a bomber, and the bomber goes somewhere, the reader thinks that he did. The crew is a collective noun, which refers to many people who are members of it. At the least, you should clarify.

However, those were the only problems I could find, so please fix them and the ones mentioned above and it'll look good. – Joe Nutter 21:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tentative support as long as the image remains hidden. Oppose, Comment Not supporting yet, there are a few issues for me.

*"All-American American football player" reads weirdly for me, he is an All-American American...

  • Update, I have changed to oppose for this article solely because of the licensing issue. An article that has a potential copyright issue cannot be A-Class in my opinion, presumably coming under "A5" of the criteria, or common sense. If the image is removed, or the status clarified, then I would be very happy to support the article, as it is I cannot in good faith support it. Regards, Woody (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The conversation did not go well with the Licensing director. She went from objecting to availing the pictures for fear that they will be used for endorsement, which was a problem I was able to solve with the proper part of the creative commons license, which protects endorsement rights, to objecting to use for almost any personal or commercial purpose. I am going to be in touch with their legal dept, but it is not looking good with their new objection. The only way I am likely to get the University's approval for the 20 or so images currently in use will be to show that other universities allow usage of their archives via creative commons licensing. I guess I will hide the picture to get your support.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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