Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Spotlight cleanup listing/Images

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  • File:TenebraeNightmare.jpg, located in "Aberrant" sexuality section, screenshot
    Used for discussing sexuality, but free image of actress would seem to be able to replace this. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep - I don't agree. The discussion of aberrant sexuality in the article specifically relates to Tenebrae and the use of the ambiguous male/female in this role plays an important part in the film's narrative and thematic concerns. Using a generic free photo of the actress (if any exist) would not serve any purpose, and in fact to me would be merely decorative.Hal Raglan (talk) 17:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    The use of a free image could technically be decorative since we don't have to worry about copyright issues. However for this screenshot, it just shows a woman looking towards the camera. Its use here doesn't really convey anything about the ""Aberrant" sexuality" section. If a screenshot could be found for one of the scenes described in the section, that would have a stronger rationale for allowing the image. Otherwise, it just looks like we're including an image to say "Look, she's sexy" which seems decorative in this use. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 05:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    But the image in question is a screenshot taken from one of the scenes described in the section, depicting the character about to be murdered in one of the film's flashbacks. I'll change the caption to make this more clear.-Hal Raglan (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Numerous non-free images. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 21:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Article contains 16 images, 15 of which are non-free, one a diagram is in Commons.
The article includes two images both by artist Jim Lee. At least one of those should go, and I think the image used in the infobox is a very representative image of Batman and it would be a shame to lose it.
Although it seems sensible to reuse images once they are included in Wikipedia already that is not the reality I have seen in other articles, and the standard should be applied consistently. There is no real need to include the Frank Miller Dark Knight cover image in the main Batman article. The third image by Jim Lee showing Batmans enemies also seems like a smart bit of reuse but similarly incompatible with the strict interpretation of the image policy I've experienced.
Maybe I'm missing some important subtlety but the image of Dick Grayson as Batman doesn't seem distinctly different enough to belong in the Batman article but it would seem easier to justify in the Dick Grayson article (which incidentally has two images of Chris O'Donnell as Robin, when it seems like only one would be needed).
The painted image by Alex Ross, the Batman Animated series image, and the Michael Keaton, as the first film Batman, are all particularly strong images. I'd suggest they be last on the list of any images to be removed, each being representative of large parts of the Batman style (comic/television, film, animation, respectively).
Fundamentally I don't think removing any of these images will make the article better - I'd encourage the better editors to make sure to improve the article before removing any images that compensate for weak text - but if this article shouldn't be exempt from the rules being applied severely and strictly applied elsewhere. -- Horkana (talk) 01:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Image removed from the article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Babbpressbook-b.jpeg, located in Marketing and presentation section, book cover
    A pressbook is briefly discussed in the section, but showing the cover doesn't seem to assist in the reader's understanding. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Remove per above. —Mike Allen 07:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Remove, cover is not necessary to assist reader in understanding that a press book was released, and general preference is not to use a non-free book cover image outside of its own article. 04:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
    Comment Any possibility this might be Public Domain? Oh, but who gives a fuck, this is a Project Deletion discussion. Happy Editing! Dekkappai (talk) 06:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sure that we do care if it could be public domain, as if that were the case, we would have this non-free image converted over to a free image. Do you have reason to believe that it is in the public domain (seeing that the film is from 1949)? --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 06:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • File:Willowraz.jpg, located in visual effects section, screenshot
    Probably could use better caption detailing the use of visual effects. --Happy editing!

Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 21:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only the zero g image should be kept, displays how the wires were setup. I found it helpful to visual what they were talking about. --Peppagetlk 18:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Alien (1979) - main cast.jpg, located in cast section, publicity shot of characters
      • Keep: The article's GA review found no issue with the images. A subsequent FA review found that the images used "are well integrated in the text, are used to illustrate points that could not be easily described with text alone, the usage seems consistant with WP:NFCC, and by extension featured article criteria three." The cast image passes the non-free content criteria as the "Casting" section specifically discusses (via sourced critical commentary) how the ages and sexes of the actors added to the look, feel, and effectiveness of the film. The image significantly enhances understanding of these points, as the "look" of the characters cannot be described in words alone. --IllaZilla (talk) 09:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The first one could probably be removed. The second picture I would recommend keeping since it shows the conditions in which the filming too place. The third one could probably also get removed, but some may argue that it is relevant in order to show the split screen effect that was used. - Diego_pmc Talk 14:13, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Remove, I say. Far too many nonfree images here. Staecker (talk) 12:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep
    File:FlaggMovieSheridan.jpg is the only time where the character has appeared in a film adaptation
    File:Walter o'Dim.PNG is significant in that the character has two different personas and that Walter is the definitive one at the end of the Dark Tower series. Up until a certain point he was an entirely different character in different books by King until King combined the two, which drastically altered the character of Flagg and his importance in the series. It's a very significant part of Flagg's character history and his publication history as to how the character evolved over the years in King's different novels.--CyberGhostface (talk) 06:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:F13Variety.jpg, located in development section, advertisement
    • Keep - there is an entire section of critical commentary devoted to this specific advertisement that appeared in Variety back in 1979. It discusses both the impact the ad had as well as specific details of how Cunningham wanted the ad to look in order to create a buzz for the film.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 05:41, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The image has been moved from the plot section to the production section where critical commentary on the image is discussed. The image provides an illustation on the returning production members from the original london production by depicting the returning actor, costume designs by the returning designer aswell as production design by the returning artist. The fair use rational has been clarified to meet Fair use standards and it is believed the image now meets standards.--Amadscientist (talk) 08:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image removed from article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added image of Michael Keaton as Batman that was already included in Batman article. -- Horkana (talk) 01:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Change it. Better to use Michael Keaton image that shows torso and batsuit not just his mask and face. Reuse image from Batman (1989 film). -- Horkana (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image already deleted. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Image already deleted. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Needs source/resizing/FUR

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