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08:14, 27 April 2024 review of submission by 1.233.206.93

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Hello! Would like to kindly ask for assistance for creating this page for Nikita Bondarenko. He is a verified author who got published in the largest and most reputable book store chain in all of Korea. The sources used int he article are reliable, alongside sources from leading newspapers in Sri Lanka and Russia about Nikita Bondarenko (individually). However, I still keep getting rejected... 1.233.206.93 (talk) 08:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This draft wasn't rejected (which would mean resubmission is not possible), only declined. It was declined because there is no evidence of notability presented in the draft. And I suspect, for someone who has written (presumably?) only one book, and a very recent one at that, such evidence of notability simply does not exist. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) I fixed your link, it lacked the "Draft:" portion. Remember to log in when posting.
Please describe your connection with this author, as you claim, by saying it is your own personal work, to have taken a very professional looking image of him.
That a particular retailer carries his book does not make him a notable author- please review the definition of a notable creative professional. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:45, 27 April 2024 review of submission by Steelbird1967

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Please Help me Editing This Draft Steelbird1967 (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steelbird1967 I've added the submission template so you can submit it when ready; what help are you seeking? 331dot (talk) 09:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i submit it to afc its under review till that can you tell me if there is any correction in this draft ? Steelbird1967 (talk) 12:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Steelbird1967 You incorrectly placed it in the "Wikipedia" namespace, which is for policy pages, not articles. To submit it, you need to click the "submit your draft for review" button. Unless you have extensive experience having drafts accepted, you should allow the process to play out and not move it yourself.
You will also need to clarify the copyright of the image you uploaded to Commons. Unless you took it yourself or can show it was released with a copyright compatible with Wikipedia's(allowing for reuse for any purpose with attribution), you shouldn't have uploaded it. 331dot (talk) 12:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot Can You do it please ? i need your guidance to get started with this Steelbird1967 (talk) 12:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't clarify the copyright for you. If you aren't able to do that you should just request deletion of the image. Images are not necessary for the draft approval process, which only considers the text and sources. 331dot (talk) 16:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:33, 27 April 2024 review of submission by Gravitas temporale

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simple: does Gravitas temporale get a notification, when this question dialog box is answered.😪 Gravitas temporale (talk) 12:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gravitas temporale: Your draft was declined because it appears to be more of an editing test than an attempt to write a draft. (And for the record, I can't assess your one source; it tells me I need to enable JavaScript even after I've temporarily disabled my scriptblocker and uBlock Origin. Even if I could, one source cannot by itself support an article.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v AE thread summaries 15:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Your educated answer will not go unnoticed or lost. With such depth, the world is again in good hands. I will endeavor to write some source code on the 8 Automorphic Pascal positions, and why only "J1", can be found to perfectly express said, "prime mover", before using your buttons further.😇🫡😌0_o Gravitas temporale (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gravitas temporale: If you're using AI to write your responces, stop it. Your last reply verges on a non-sequitur. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v AE thread summaries 16:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. not really. although it surely engages the intellect. something i could apologize for, since it is so very simple, but also since even the extremely astute have a difficult effort keeping up, perhaps it's wiser to explain some small details, and write up the necessary table style with a 17px padding, later, as i go.🙂 EXPLAINING:
a pascal triangle can point up or down or to the left or to the right. but it can also be formed from the upper left, the upper right, the lower left, the lower right, corners [8 positions]. and if we are forming a Halkus Yarna in 45 "10 × 10" product boxes [using table style], and adding the 10 backbone product boxes [which are all the boxes that contain squares, and naturally cognitive developing], we sum a base of 55 boxes, for which i have charted, but only 54 to my credit, since an ancestor of mine, a certain Fibonacci who during his time was known as Leonard of Pisa, will quite expectantly receive credit for the original product table of 12×12, from the 12th century.
THAT SAID.
The "J1" can be seen clearly, due to the capital letters [upper case] forming to the left, and "J1", in the lower left.🙄 so if it's all the same to you, just know that this is nothing new from my side. and that on an intellectual ground, any remote peers have yet to be found in over 60 years.
In fact, perhaps i'll need to start a wiki tree of my own, gaining large handfuls of sponsers, just to get my story out there.😇til the next time, mr. Couriano, 再见.😳0_o Gravitas temporale (talk) 02:32, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:40, 27 April 2024 review of submission by 2A00:23C5:5229:E501:8CB7:B994:D2CD:CF62

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Unsure about reason this submission was declined: I would like to request further guidance so that I can improve the article. 2A00:23C5:5229:E501:8CB7:B994:D2CD:CF62 (talk) 15:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode:
This looks like a case of chaff choking the wheat. Get rid of the poorer sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v AE thread summaries 15:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:02, 27 April 2024 review of submission by 2409:40F4:8:5CB7:A696:E3D4:3023:D753

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Could you please provide more context or details about the rejection? 2409:40F4:8:5CB7:A696:E3D4:3023:D753 (talk) 20:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is an essay, not an enyclopaedia article.
An article should be a summary of what independent reliable sources have said about a subject, nothing more. Your thoughts, beliefs, opinions (like mine, or any other random person's on the internet) do not belong there. ColinFine (talk) 20:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:53, 27 April 2024 review of submission by Wearefromjersey

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Hi! Hope you can help answering my question - after submitting this draft, I got the below note: "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified." Not really sure what I'm doing wrong since all the info I'm citing is coming from these media sites and can be verified. Am I citing it incorrectly? Not sure what I need to change, any help and advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks so much! Wearefromjersey (talk) 20:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of your citations are to interviews. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 21:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:11, 27 April 2024 review of submission by AdamsFunOfficial

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ADVICE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME AdamsFunOfficial (talk) 21:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a look at your first article.
Writing an article (which is hard, for inexperienced editors) starts by finding places where people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to write at length about it and been published in reliable sources.
Then if you have found some such sources, forget everything that you personally know about the subject, and everything said or written by the subject or its associates, and write a summary of what those independent sources say, citing them.
If you can't find several such sources, then the topic is almost certainly not notable according to the definition that Wikipedia uses, and no article on it will be accepted. ColinFine (talk) 21:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:08, 27 April 2024 review of submission by 74.12.81.63

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‪Concern regarding User:Jthomxav/sandbox‬". My page is declined. Could you pls help me publish the page 74.12.81.63 (talk) 23:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remember to log in when posting. Please see the advice left by the reviewer. 331dot (talk) 23:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your sandbox article is not properly referenced. See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to do so and WP:Biographies of living persons for why we have to be very strict about how sources are referenced. As to your sources themselves...
Your sourcing is better than we usually see around here; your best sources being the Galatea Resurrection zine review and the Asian-Canadian Observer (disregarding the ProQuest source as I can't say anything about it). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v AE thread summaries 15:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:31, 27 April 2024 review of submission by Hannoscholtz

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I have written an article on Alex Counts, founder of Grameen foundation, author of several books on microfinance and social entrepreneurship, teaching philantrophy and social entrepreneurship at UMD.

The article was considered promotional and deleted within minutes, while I was still writing on the talk page why I consider this person to be worthy of a WIkipedia page. Since being deleted in entirety, it is not longer possible to access the work I have done.

I still think that Counts is worthy an entry, but are of course not willing to waste my effort a second time. What can I do? Hannoscholtz (talk) 23:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hannoscholtz You created an article directly; this board is intended for drafts in the submission process. You may want the more general help desk. To answer you, though, your article was completely unsourced. Every substantive fact about a living person needs a source, per WP:BLP. The only references you had were to Counts' own work. Any article about him needs to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about him, showing how he meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. You said he is notable for his work in microfinance and poverty reduction but don't say who considers him so or why. You are welcome to submit a new draft via the Article Wizard. 331dot (talk) 23:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hannoscholtz, adding to 331dot's excellent advice, any unsourced statement about a living person that is on the public-facing pages of Wikipedia gets removed extremely fast (as you have unfortunately discovered). It is in fact required for editors to do so, since the privacy of living people is paramount. On the other hand, if you work on your page in the draft space, you will have time to source everything without danger of deletion. I also think you might be able to retrieve your work via WP:RFU if you request to have it draftified. Good luck and happy editing! StartGrammarTime (talk) 11:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:46, 27 April 2024 review of submission by Lawrencehlevens

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How can I upload photographic content to Will H. Dixon's profile? Lawrencehlevens (talk) 23:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrencehlevens We don't have profiles here, we have articles. Photos are not relevant to the draft submission process, which only considers the text and sources. You should just concentrate on getting the draft accepted first, you can then worry about images. If you're still interested in learning about the process, see WP:UPIMAGE. 331dot (talk) 23:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see referencing for beginners to learn how to write in line references. 331dot (talk) 23:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is why I hesitated in creating an article/profile whatever term you are happy with. I am not an editor or professional writer. If anyone is interested in correcting this essay by all means go ahead. It's too cumbersome and technically difficult for the average individuals. Feel free to edit. I really didn't like your tone in your response.
Kindly, Lawrencehlevens (talk) 00:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lawrencehlevens I apologize, I intended no poor tone; just trying to be clear and help try to get you on the same page/mindset. Many people who use the term "profile" are here for other purposes than writing an encyclopedia. Writing a new article is the most difficult thing to do here, and getting some experience by editing existing articles and using the new user tutorial can help immensely. 331dot (talk) 13:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lawrencehlevens I'm afraid I have tagged the draft for speedy deletion it is a blatant copyright violation of https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143687702/william-h-dixon Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Theroadislong (talk) 13:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you establish the page, instead of criticizing. You certainly didn't offer to help. Have at it. Lawrencehlevens (talk) 23:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can't write an article about your topic for you. It's up to you to gather the independent reliable sources that give this man significant coverage, showing how he meets the definition of a notable person, and to summarize them in an article. As I indicated, this is the hardest thing to attempt on Wikipedia. If you want to do it I would suggest that you first do as I indicated earlier, to gain the knowledge needed first. 331dot (talk) 23:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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