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00:24, 4 November 2023 review of submission by MaryGrace0101

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The submission I've created for Charles J. Orlando, from my limited experience and standpoint, does pass notability. So many entries I've read that purportedly "pass" notability are *obviously* paid entries and promotional. Whereas what I've written has clear, notable citations, and mainstream sources. I'm unclear what is not passing. (Disclosure: I'm not affiliated with the subject of this entry. Yes, I've followed him and read his books but that shouldn't equate to my being a shill.) I would welcome advise as to why this is rejected in its current draft. MaryGrace0101 (talk) 00:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MaryGrace0101 If you have actual evidence that an article was created by an undisclosed paid editor in violation of WP:PAID, please follow the instructions provided in that policy.
Your sources either do not mention Mr. Orlando or are interviews with him. Neither establishes notability, which is why the draft was rejected. 331dot (talk) 00:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

01:57, 4 November 2023 review of submission by MadBlade 2

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Because I'm still new to wikipedia, and really don't know how to make Wikipedia well, I really want to know what stuff do I need for my Hank Parker racing Wikipedia. MadBlade 2 (talk) 01:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My advice to you is to spend a few weeks or months working on improving existing articles while you learn how Wikipedia works. Writing a new article before you have learnt the basics is like buying an instrument you've never played before and going busking with it: you're likely to have a miserable time.
In particular, until you've learnt about notability and the golden rule, you're never going to be able to create an article successfully.
What's wrong with your draft is that there is not a single reference with significant coverage. Never mind the results - where has somebody, wholly unconnected with Hank Parker Racing, written in depth about them? If the answer is, nowhere, then they do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and you shouldn't spend any more time on this. ColinFine (talk) 11:52, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

03:12, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Benking84

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Hi,

I have been trying to get this published for a while now, at first it was not enough sources I now have 33 sources, then the sources were not of high enough quality which I also fixed by finding reputable news sources.

The most recent one is that it sounded like an advert which I fixed, Chat GPT did half the work and I fixed the rest.

Now the latest comment is that it is worse than before? Can you provide any specifics on how? It definitely sounds less like an advert. I have found other new articles with minimal refererences and am confused how these get through but this article cannot? Benking84 (talk) 03:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

03:16, 4 November 2023 review of submission by MagicN7

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@Wingwatchers Thanks for looking at the article. I am a little confused by your comment. Aren't I showing notability by the third criterion of WP:NACADEMIC by showing he is an AMS fellow (less than 1800 all time) and a Simons fellow of math (less than 500 all time)? And which source is not reliable? MagicN7 (talk) 03:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MagicN7 I think this is notable under WP:NACADEMIC. That criteria is a special criteria that is distinct from WP:NPEOPLE, and I've certainly made the mistake of forgetting to check if an academic passes that criteria even if they don't seem to pass WP:NPEOPLE. As such, I've accepted the draft. Qcne (talk) 12:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

03:42, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Bobztv

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Has anyone gained any benefit from using gold seal shilajit, i.e,the disappearance of brain fog,mind set,focus,etc.etc.... Bobztv (talk) 03:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That draft has been deleted. Missbellanash (talk) 05:50, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:58, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Sulohia

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Hello. Not sure why the reliability of the sources are being challenged? The references mention multiple leading newspapers in India, including the Times of India which is the largest english newspaper in the world. The references also has links to both Dhirubhai Ambani school which is a leading school in India, and Sevenoaks School which is a leading school in UK. The articles talk about championship victories as well as top 3 podium finishes which are factual in nature. The AI Chess tool that has been made has been covered prolifically in the media and also analysed in detail by Chessbase India which is the largest Chess website in the world. These are all very trust sources and I dont think reliability of these sources should be doubted. I have made more edits now, and added a few more press articles and references. I hope the submission wil be reviewed favourably now. Sulohia (talk) 08:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Times of India is not the best source to be using, see WP:TOI. Interviews and brief mentions do not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 09:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sulohia: please note that per WP:BLP, all private personal and family details must be clearly supported by reliable published sources, or else removed. Just because you know the person's DOB or family members' names, thanks to your close relationship, isn't enough; they must be verifiable from publications. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:27, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:45, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Virgobeach

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how do i remove approved drafts from my sandbox Virgobeach (talk) 09:45, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Virgobeach: you shouldn't have to. When a draft is approved, it gets moved to the main article space. Often what's left behind is a redirect (as appears to be the case also in User:Virgobeach/sandbox), but you can delete that just by blanking the contents or replacing them with your next draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:49, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
wonderful thanks DoubleGrazing, Virgobeach Virgobeach (talk) 09:52, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:07, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Turtle Monarch

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Review this article again please, new information was discovered about this man. A picture of him is yet to be found. Turtle Monarch (talk) 17:07, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We don't accept nonsense or joke drafts. Edward-Woodrow • talk 17:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:51, 4 November 2023 review of submission by KannappaSara9

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I have submitted the draft again with proper references and citations. Wanted to know whether it is submitted or not. KannappaSara9 (talk) 20:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@KannappaSara9 you successfully submitted it (see Draft:Tennis Premier League) and it is pending review. S0091 (talk) 20:59, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:57, 4 November 2023 review of submission by TheEvilDrRyley

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I need help removing a reference from this page that was added accidentally TheEvilDrRyley (talk) 20:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@TheEvilDrRyley you have a few references bunched up under the References section but they should be placed next the specific content they are supporting. If those are errors, just click on the footnote number, hit delete, then publish changes. S0091 (talk) 21:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

21:03, 4 November 2023 review of submission by BiGGPanTheRIndia

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How we need to edit the topic. We need to have a topic on calculation of energy requirement of a house BiGGPanTheRIndia (talk) 21:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BiGGPanTheRIndia the draft was rejected so will not be considered. See also WP:NOTHOWTO and WP:PROMO. S0091 (talk) 21:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:00, 4 November 2023 review of submission by 191.81.167.26

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sorry, but these comments are, like most of the comments I've received, garbage. You claim that the article has not undergone significant revisions. That is false. You claim that the article is not written in a neutral tone. That is false. You've rejected the article now on the grounds that the subject isn't sufficiently notable, whereas previous editors already had accepted it as sufficiently notable--and they were right to do so: a WWII vet decorated by not one but two heads of state (the Queen of England and the President of Czechoslovakia) is, indeed, sufficiently notable. Stop being obstructionist; provide some halfway decent feedback that actually tells me what you want me to fix, in concrete terms, not some vague obstructionist nonsense about writing essays (a previous comment told me that the article was written like a CV; I changed that--and now I'm told it reads like an essay. Apparently you don't know what an essay is if you think that Wikipedia doesn't include essays on significant subjects as entries. Every encyclopedia does so). 191.81.167.26 (talk) 22:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

None of your citations have been formatted correctly, and there are no inline citations so we cannot see which citation supports any of the content, the subject may well be notable but you have to make the effort to show that. See WP:REFB for help with correctly formatting your sources. Theroadislong (talk) 22:07, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:16, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Sayednaz

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I need assistance on the article to be published. What do I need to include for this page as a minimum, so that, after publishing I will be continuingly working on this page. Sayednaz (talk) 22:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For a start you need to suggest why they are notable in their own right, notability cannot be inherited from relations. Theroadislong (talk) 22:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sayednaz please read through all linked material in the gray box of the decline message. You need to show the subject is notable, keeping in mind the for Wikipedia WP:notability is not inherited so who their father or siblings are matters not. S0091 (talk) 22:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

23:02, 4 November 2023 review of submission by BARTINLI

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Help me for create Bartınspor page please BARTINLI (talk) 23:02, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

23:58, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Catleeball

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Hi team,

I translated the article from French to English at Draft:Hervé Koubi. The English draft was rejected as insufficiently noteworthy, though.

Do you know if this is intentional for translations of pages? E.g. could a page in one language be sufficiently notable, but not in another language? Or was this a mistake?

Thank you! Catleeball (talk) 23:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Catleeball. Each language version of Wikipedia has its own set of policies and guidelines. Accordingly, you cannot assume that a translation of an article in one Wikipedia will be accepted in the English Wikipedia. You can find more information at WP:TRANSLATE. Cullen328 (talk) 00:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understood, thank you for clarifying! Catleeball (talk) 03:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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