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edit00:24, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Owleyesinthelibrary
editHi, I've revised a draft of an entry for the artist Gregory Masurovsky a few times. The last time I asked the teahouse if the sources were sufficient, which had been an issue with some reviewers. I got a general response about sourcing, which I think I have a handle on. My question is about whether these specific sources are sufficient for the article. I asked the last reviewer but didn't hear back. In the last couple of days I've received a notice that the draft has been archived. Not sure what that means. In any case, my question remains: are these specific sources sufficient? Where can I go from here? Thanks Owleyesinthelibrary (talk) 00:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Owleyesinthelibrary: the first, strategic decision you need to make is whether you're aiming to show notability by the general WP:GNG route, or by the special WP:ARTIST one, as this has a bearing on the sources required. A quick scan of the sources cited suggests the latter to be more likely. My advice therefore is that you study carefully (if you haven't already) the four criteria in the latter, and consider whether you can clearly and demonstrably (as in, backed up by evidence) show that this person meets one or more of them. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:58, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi,
- Thanks for the reply. Yes, I think he meets the notability standard based on the artist criteria, section 4, works in public collections. (That's in line with your advice.) I added five more citations. There are now 10. I would guess that's sufficient. He also won a couple of awards at a major art show, which I would think constitute critical recognition, another criteria for artistic notability.
- I also added some citations in the draft in places which a previous reviewer said they were needed.
- What's the next step? Thanks for you help in this. Owleyesinthelibrary (talk) 21:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- PS: You probably received a message saying some of your comments/questions on a talk page somewhere have been archived. The draft is still there; in fact, there is no way of 'archiving' drafts. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
06:44, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Rosepolicarpio
editHi. I would like to understand why my article is not being published. All of the references I've used are reliable, published books in the Philippines on this topic. I have written four other articles accepted by Wikipedia with similar sources. Rosepolicarpio (talk) 06:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- See my answer to your next question. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
06:45, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Rosepolicarpio
editHi. I would like to understand why my article is not being published. All of the references I've used are reliable, published books in the Philippines on this topic. I have written four other articles accepted by Wikipedia with similar sources. Rosepolicarpio (talk) 06:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Rosepolicarpio: it may well be that all the sources you've cited are reliable, but they're offline sources cited in a way that makes it difficult or even impossible for anyone to verify them, as they don't provide full bibliographical information of the publications. See WP:OFFLINE for advice on citing such sources.
- The other problem with this is that quite a lot of the content is unreferenced with entire paragraphs and even sections without a single citation. This inevitably causes the reader to wonder "how do we know that's true" or "where did this information come from", and the reader should never have to ask such questions. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
06:54, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Twelve31
editHaving trouble finding out how to format the picture with background information in the style that seems persistent throughout wikipedia with the blue banners etc... Any help would be appreciated. Twelve31 (talk) 06:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Twelve31, there was coding that forced the image to be displayed larger than usual. I removed that, and now the photo is displaying normally. Cullen328 (talk) 07:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! Twelve31 (talk) 07:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
08:03, 31 December 2023 review of submission by TempCgi
editI have created a Wikipedia article on Bikram Malati Indian Singer in Hello Team. TempCgi 08:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- This draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
08:57, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Rosinant357
edit- Rosinant357 (talk · contribs)
This is my first article and I need help to understand why it is being declined every time, I try to publish it . Could you please provide an example and help me resolve the issue. Rosinant357 (talk) 08:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Rosinant357: this draft has a few different issues, but it was declined for lack of evidence of notability. You need to show that the subject is notable either by the general WP:GNG notability guideline, which needs much stronger sources than you're currently citing; or by the special WP:MUSICBIO one, which requires substantial career achievements (and evidence thereof). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help... I'll try to add WP:MUSICBIO tag ... And hope that help me... I think i add references for all information that i try to publish . Rosinant357 (talk) 09:34, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Rosinant357: I've requested that this draft be speedily deleted. (Should have looked into it earlier, my bad.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help... I'll try to add WP:MUSICBIO tag ... And hope that help me... I think i add references for all information that i try to publish . Rosinant357 (talk) 09:34, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
10:41, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Edmilsonreis2321
editI'm a beginner editor and I've already written an article and they're always rejecting it due to sources, I need help with that Edmilsonreis2321 (talk) 10:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Edmilsonreis2321: this draft has been rejected as non-notable, and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- The sources are either dead-links, basic listing probably self generated or just Spotify links to the artist (with 9 monthly listeners). KylieTastic (talk) 10:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
13:32, 31 December 2023 review of submission by 2409:4070:4084:F809:A1FF:DC7A:81C5:88F6
editplease help me in referencing
2409:4070:4084:F809:A1FF:DC7A:81C5:88F6 (talk) 13:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- The book sources you provided are primary. One's own books should not be added as references to back up statements. Writing books and distributing them to book-selling platforms doesn't establish notability. You need to add reliable secondary sources that offer significant coverage of the subject and are independent of the subject. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:16, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
17:00, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Drjsilverstein
editThe labeling of my work as pseudoscience is rather disturbing and indicates a lack of comprehension and the use of a defamatory term. It was reviewed within minutes of being submitted and thus suggests superficial editorial oversight.
Sincerely, Dr Jay Silverstein Drjsilverstein (talk) 17:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Drjsilverstein, this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. For your information, once you submit a draft for review, it is up to the reviewers to evaluate it. As drafts are reviewed in no specific order, the review may occur immediately or take several months. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
17:15:01, 31 December 2023 review of draft by Ipandro Acaico
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I WOULD LIKE TO SPEED UP REVIEW OF MY ARTICLE
Ipandro Acaico (talk) 17:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Ipandro Acaico drafts are not reviewed in any particular order and reviews are not generally done up request. Be patient. Back in October the wait time was up to four months; now it is weeks and Wikipedia has no deadline. S0091 (talk) 17:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
19:14, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Mskoksal
editWhat exactly do I need to do for my draft to be accepted? Can you explain in more detail?thank you.. Mskoksal (talk) 19:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
19:28, 31 December 2023 review of submission by Mgalligan
editI really would appreciate some help with my article. I want my draft to be accepted because I know that Nanny Assis is a noteworthy person, performing and working with many high-profile musicians in New York, touring internationally, and receiving many awards in Brazil and beyond. I'm not well-versed in how to find good sources that will comply, and how to show notability, because I'm not a professional, is there any way to get some help from other contributors on this article? I'd really, really appreciate any insight that you can provide. Mgalligan (talk) 19:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Mgalligan, none of us are professionals. We are all volunteers. If you believe that this person is notable, then you are obligated to find signigicant coverage of this musician in published, reliable sources that are entirely independent of the person. At first glance, the All About Jazz source appears to be the best, but a closer look reveals that it was written by a Terri Hinte, a professional publicist, and is therefore not independent and is of no value in establishing notability. I have done a basic Google search and all I can find are passing mentions, calendar listing, press releases and the like, none of which contribute to notability. Cullen328 (talk) 19:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Mgalligan part of the issue is all the name dropping. Notability is not inherited (read that) so him working with other notable musicians has no bearing on him meeting the English Wikipedia's notability criteria, not to mention much it is unsourced. The other issue is most of the sources are poor with many being primary sources. What is needed are secondary sources, such as reputable news or music media, that have written in-depth about him and/or his work. If he won an award, secondary sources are needed to support the importance of the award. Please also read the notability guidelines for musicians. S0091 (talk) 19:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
21:35, 31 December 2023 review of submission by 007g3m1n1
editNeed help with creating this page. Requesting help for any volunteer to put information and content regarding GaN chargers and power adapters. 007g3m1n1 (talk) 21:35, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- We don't offer co-editing services at this helpdesk. Qcne (talk) 21:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)